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Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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This is a greatly researched article, and the site is just awesome! Kanchipuram Saree has a rich history, and I learned so much more by reading this article. I am intrigued by the Kanchipuram saree and have dreamed about owning one. The digital ledger is a unique idea – if authenticity is established, it would be easy to invest in this as art piece.

You don't need a digital ledger - these are ODOP goods [0] so it's fairly straigtforward to identify authenticity based on the wholeseller's GI tag [1]. GI Tagging for ODOP products is taken extremely seriously as the products associated with ODOP tend to be associated with locally powerful khadi cooperatives and because this is a personal project of Modi and Shah as they started their political careers in Khadi Coop…

Your information about tagging is relevant and useful---and a valid critique of the techno-solutionsim espoused by the piece. Words that could have been spent on talking about the incredible technology that handlooms actually are.

But keep the votebank politics out of this man. Every political leader in the history of the country has espoused such kinship and love for the handicraft. Their reasons are their own.

Khadi and handicrafts have been political since before the beginning of the republic of India.

Besides, cooperatives are well-known mechanisms to launder money, and their politically "clean" image is why they are a favourite laundry of politicians.

Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm coming around to the idea that we _should_ really be using "l" or maybe "r" instead of "zh" for the ழ. At least it's closer in pronunciation and there's a chance someone can work their way to it. Zh is like "we don't have an exact match so we'll repurpose a letter we don't use". It has no phonetic relevance.

Tamil is my mother tongue and I agree 100%. And like insisting that sentences shouldn't end with a preposition, or "you should say GNU/Linux, not Linux", it's no way to make friends and influence people. Whenever someone says "actually", it's hard not to think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGvw-E4OtOA

Sure, referencing a meme in a language relate discourse, should make people take you seriously /s

>About

> I pronounce my name as kroo-PAH-krun. In IPA it’s /kruːˈpɑːkrən/

Rules for thee, but not for me :))))

Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tamil is my mother tongue and I agree 100%. And like insisting that sentences shouldn't end with a preposition, or "you should say GNU/Linux, not Linux", it's no way to make friends and influence people. Whenever someone says "actually", it's hard not to think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGvw-E4OtOA

Sure, referencing a meme in a language relate discourse, should make people take you seriously /s >About > I pronounce my name as kroo-PAH-krun. In IPA it’s /kruːˈpɑːkrən/ Rules for thee, but not for me :))))

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Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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I hate it when people mispronounce/misspell Yazhi. It's pronounced using the the most unique feature of the language - "zh" instead of "L" just like Tamil itself (it's actually Thamizh). The original wikipedia page: https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B3%E0...

Yes. Very few non-Dravidian languages spoken in India, have that specific sound.

The only exception I can think of is Marathi. The 'el' in 'sakal' is roughly the same.

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post #25
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I hate it when people mispronounce/misspell Yazhi. It's pronounced using the the most unique feature of the language - "zh" instead of "L" just like Tamil itself (it's actually Thamizh). The original wikipedia page: https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B3%E0...

Yes. Very few non-Dravidian languages spoken in India, have that specific sound. The only exception I can think of is Marathi. The 'el' in 'sakal' is roughly the same.

Wow, I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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The sad part? This is just one piece of heritage among countless which have already been lost or haven't got a voice to save them. Just like Kancheepuram, nearly every district has a rich heritage in cuisine and fabric which is hundreds of years old. A lot of it was just lost to history because it became commercially nonviable to preserve and so much of it is disappearing in front of our eyes while we do nothing :(

Hundreds ? You must be joking.

Small multiples of a 100 are like a new flashy upstarts in the block as far as Indian traditional art goes.

Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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> Yet, the market for "Indian Luxury" is booming globally. We see European houses acting as colonial curators of Indian heritage: Prada rebranding the Kolhapuri chappal for ₹84,500 ($930); Gucci selling the common kurta as an 'exotic kaftan' for the price of a small car; and Dior releasing a ₹18,180,000 ($200,000) coat dripping in Lucknowi Mukaish work without a whisper of credit to the artisans. The global appetite…

I find it silly and patronising to call this colonialism.

Colonialism is when globalism? Much of Indians have no problem (I assume) with this.

Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Very few non-Dravidian languages spoken in India, have that specific sound. The only exception I can think of is Marathi. The 'el' in 'sakal' is roughly the same.

Wow, I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing!

Marathi also has the ch vs ts thing. Similar issues turns up in transliterating Cyrillic -- Chebyshev vs Tschebyshev.

Re: Kanchipuram Saris and Thinking Machines

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I hate it when people mispronounce/misspell Yazhi. It's pronounced using the the most unique feature of the language - "zh" instead of "L" just like Tamil itself (it's actually Thamizh). The original wikipedia page: https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B3%E0...

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