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Under "In which we briefly return to Minnesota": > And I think journalism and civil society should do some genuine soul-searching on how we knew—knew—the state of that pond, but didn’t consider it particularly important or newsworthy until someone started fishing on camera. In... the same section where he cites all of the evidence the government has put together against the fraudsters. What is the issue? That these i…
Yes, there were some investigations and convictions, but nothing to on a scale that would deal with problem, nor any systematic change to a level paying huge amounts of money to scammers.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
So it's a made up term from people who want to discredit people they don't like by calling them "secret racist" without having any proof.
All terms are made up by humans
1. The fraud is in fact being investigated, people are being charged and convicted. Despite this, rightwing media institutions are acting as if fraud is being ignored and maybe even covered up and encouraged because
2. This is just another example of the decades long project by those who have lots of money and don't want to see it go to takes to paint social programs as a money-pipe from good hardworking people to fraud and waste.
Under "In which we briefly return to Minnesota": > And I think journalism and civil society should do some genuine soul-searching on how we knew—knew—the state of that pond, but didn’t consider it particularly important or newsworthy until someone started fishing on camera. In... the same section where he cites all of the evidence the government has put together against the fraudsters. What is the issue? That these i…
The report to the government about a more than 50% fraud rate was from six years ago. The Minnesota government was not serious about dealing with problem. Most businesses would not last that long with a 50% customer fraud rate. Yes, there were some investigations and convictions, but nothing to on a scale that would deal with problem, nor any systematic change to a level paying huge amounts of money to scammers.
Second: I think one of the points Patrick misses is that fraud did indisputably occur, but that doesn't mean we need to treat Shirley as a neutral observer who simply cares about fiscal responsibility. (If I'm wrong, I eagerly away his next video on red state fraud.)
> They will sometimes organize recruitment very openly, using the same channels you use for recruiting at any other time: open Facebook groups, Reddit threads, and similar. They will film TikTok videos flashing their ill-gotten gains, and explaining steps in order for how you, too, can get paid. > As a fraud investigator, you are allowed and encouraged to read Facebook at work. I tend to believe this, but it would be…
Here's a rap video, the entirety of which bragging about fraud against the government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ck7hTsug8 "I just been swipin' for EDD Go to the bank, get a stack at least This ** here better than sellin' Ps I made some racks that I couldn't believe Ten cards, that's two-hunnid large" (For context, "EDD" is California’s Employment Development Department.)
Yeah, the fraud’s been around for a while and the Biden DoJ was investigating it. One of the guys got fingered trying to bribe a juror¹ but he stole half the bribe money. The politicization of the issue means that Democratic Party aligned people continually flag any reference to the scam on HN though. If anyone else said that someone broke in and stole all the records from a daycare days after it was accused of fraud…
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I haven't seen any HN articles about this, never mind getting to the HN front page twice a day, so I'll take your retraction and apology now.
[0]: https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/04/02/trump-says-hell-stop...