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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by clickety_clack »

bondarchuk wrote: post #11
onion2k wrote: post #6

Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/engineering-at-microsoft/welc... "Microsoft has over 100,000 software engineers working on software projects of all sizes." So that would mean 100 000 000 000 (100 billion) lines of code per month. Frightening.

With those kinds of numbers you don’t need logic anymore, just a lookup table with all possible states of the system.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by hpdigidrifter »

azaras wrote: post #4
phito wrote: post #3

Well yeah, it is just better. At my work we have a copilot license, but we use it to access Claude Sonnet/Opus model in OpenCode.

The Copilot-Cli is not so bad, https://github.com/features/copilot/cli

Can't speak for copilot but Gemini cli is unbelievably bad compared to Gemini web.

CC has some magic secret sauce and I'm not sure what it is.

My company pays for both too, I keep coming back to Claude all-round

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by skandinaff »

copilot_king_2 wrote: post #12
onion2k wrote: post #6

Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

[dead]

Eliminate C/C++ in favor of what? Perhaps the plan is to use AI to write plain assembler? Why stop there, maybe let's do prompt in - machine-code out?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by k__ »

azaras wrote: post #4
phito wrote: post #3

Well yeah, it is just better. At my work we have a copilot license, but we use it to access Claude Sonnet/Opus model in OpenCode.

The Copilot-Cli is not so bad, https://github.com/features/copilot/cli

It's sluggish in GitHub Codespaces, as it has so many animations.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

conartist6 wrote: post #16
torben-friis wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absurd. The Linux kernel is 30 million, Postgres is 2, windows is assumed to be about 50.

No, no. 100 trillion lines of code per day is great! The only thing better would be 200 trillion ;)

CEO: I want big numbers of things. Big numbers = success.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by smoe »

onion2k wrote: post #6

Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

It is kind of funny that throughout my career, there has always been pretty much a consensus that lines of code are a bad metric, but now with all the AI hype, suddenly everybody is again like “Look at all the lines of code it writes!!”

I use LLMs all day every day, but measuring someone or something by the number of lines of code produced is still incredibly stupid, in my opinion.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

johnebgd wrote: post #15
bakugo wrote: post #13

Explains why Windows updates have been more broken than usual lately. But I guess having my computer randomly stop working because a billion dollar corporation needs to save money by using a shitty text generation algorithm to write code instead of hiring competent programmers is just the new normal now.

I switched to Ubuntu last week for my desktop. First time in my 25+ year career I’ve felt like Microsoft was wasting my time more than administering a Linux desktop would take. The slop effect is real.

Linux kernels will all eventually be permeated with AI-gen code as well. It will just take longer to see and feel the effects.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by blibble »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #7

I have found that Claude Code is better in every way I've used it. I like to use LLM's just as an advanced refactoring tool, especially where plain string search isn't enough. Anyway, my first experience of Copilot was it plainly lying that it deleted files I asked it to, and it insisted the file no longer existed (it did). The difference between the two is stark.

"my turds now contains 15% candyfloss!"

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by wcoenen »

bakugo wrote: post #13

Explains why Windows updates have been more broken than usual lately. But I guess having my computer randomly stop working because a billion dollar corporation needs to save money by using a shitty text generation algorithm to write code instead of hiring competent programmers is just the new normal now.

Do you have "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" enabled? This automatically installs preview releases, so you may unwittingly be doing QA for Microsoft.
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