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When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by heliumtera »

jauco wrote: post #3
avmich wrote: post #2

I wonder when we'll get hexagonal lanes, triangular and Penrose tiling. Rest assured, there will be practically infinite set of features designers would invent. Language designers would do good takubg into account Scheme idea: language is good when there is nothing to remove.

But css is not a “programming language” it’s a negotiation between browser engineers (who need to keep things fast and responsive) and web devs (who need to implement a fashionable design that is still distinguising for their brand)

>it’s a negotiation between browser engineers

curious how this works, huh.

seems like the same institutions starving to push browser updates are also authoring standards.

>who need to keep things fast and responsive reality says otherwise. but they definitely need to push updates.

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by heliumtera »

9dev wrote: post #19
ozim wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you don’t need new CSS features to put AI generated content in jumbotron. I dislike the idea that CSS should be made more complex. Everyone is doing the same template with Jumbotron anyway. Pick the colors, pick imagery and name for the brand - doing some magic with CSS will only piss off people. Cookie cutter design is what I like. I can compare the companies when they all have the same template for a websit…

That’s a very engineer thing to say. Most people are definitely different from you, and that’s why CSS is increasing in scope. Also, if everyone is implementing the same Jumbotron design again anyway, why not standardise that and support it right away instead? That’s how we got a bunch of features recently, like dialogs, popovers, or page transitions. And it’s for the better, I think.

>And it’s for the better, I think

A strong reason to use llms today is accessing plain text information without needing to interface with someone else stupid css. You really think the general sentiment around css is: yay things are improving?

another strong reason to use llms: no needing to write css anymore.

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by 9dev »

heliumtera wrote: post #22
9dev wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a very engineer thing to say. Most people are definitely different from you, and that’s why CSS is increasing in scope. Also, if everyone is implementing the same Jumbotron design again anyway, why not standardise that and support it right away instead? That’s how we got a bunch of features recently, like dialogs, popovers, or page transitions. And it’s for the better, I think.

>And it’s for the better, I think A strong reason to use llms today is accessing plain text information without needing to interface with someone else stupid css. You really think the general sentiment around css is: yay things are improving? another strong reason to use llms: no needing to write css anymore.

I don’t care about the general sentiment when I state my personal opinion. There are definitely people who like CSS and the direction it moves to.

And that being said: the ability to express something in a single CSS directive as opposed to a special incantation in JavaScript is an objective improvement, especially with LLMs.

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by heliumtera »

9dev wrote: post #23
heliumtera wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And it’s for the better, I think A strong reason to use llms today is accessing plain text information without needing to interface with someone else stupid css. You really think the general sentiment around css is: yay things are improving? another strong reason to use llms: no needing to write css anymore.

I don’t care about the general sentiment when I state my personal opinion. There are definitely people who like CSS and the direction it moves to. And that being said: the ability to express something in a single CSS directive as opposed to a special incantation in JavaScript is an objective improvement, especially with LLMs.

fair, you pointed well it was you opinion.

general sentiment is quite relevant when discussing standards but maybe it was a mistake to reply to your comment and not address this point in parent

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by lee_ars »

Looking at the comparison image between CSS grid lanes and CSS grid 1, the grid lanes example looks....horrifying. It looks like pinterest cancer. It makes the page look like a ragged assortment of random shit. Scannability is grossly impaired. How are you supposed to approach this content? What objective does this mess of a presentation accomplish? What kind of information lends itself to this kind of "masonry-style waterfall layout"?

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by dsego »

socalgal2 wrote: post #15

A feature I want, that appearenly was attempted by some browsers but never stanardized. I want to be able to make a table that can responsively fill out columns. +-------+------------+ +-------+------------+ +-------+------------+ | state | population | | state | population | | state | population | +=======+============+ +=======+============+ +=======+============+ | AL | .... | | DE | .... | | MI | .... | | AK | ..…

Does subgrid work for this layout?

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by extra88 »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #5
avmich wrote: post #2

I wonder when we'll get hexagonal lanes, triangular and Penrose tiling. Rest assured, there will be practically infinite set of features designers would invent. Language designers would do good takubg into account Scheme idea: language is good when there is nothing to remove.

I think the plan going forward is to allow people to implement their own CSS layout primitives using Houdini, but I haven't kept track of how it has evolved or progressed.

It hasn't.

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by isleyaardvark »

lee_ars wrote: post #25

Looking at the comparison image between CSS grid lanes and CSS grid 1, the grid lanes example looks....horrifying. It looks like pinterest cancer. It makes the page look like a ragged assortment of random shit. Scannability is grossly impaired. How are you supposed to approach this content? What objective does this mess of a presentation accomplish? What kind of information lends itself to this kind of "masonry-style…

There is a use case for grid lane and pinterest is a good example: random images where a user isn't looking for a particular image but is just browsing. That's also why the example looks bad, is because it prominently includes text, which isn't part of the use case. Scannability is terrible, this layout has a very limited use case. It really is only for browsing random images, not even searching for a specific image and definitely not concerned with text.

Re: When will CSS Grid Lanes arrive?

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Post by Animats »

coolgoose wrote: post #16
socalgal2 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tables are not responsive. They don't adjust to changing screen sizes. That was okay, maybe, when everyone was only on desktop/laptops but changed once mobile and tablets appeared.

What? Tables are responsive, they auto adjust widths or columns, you can control which are fixed width and which are fluid.

Yes. You can specify width as fixed, percentage, or leave it blank.

Here's an old all-tables site of mine.[1] Try resizing the window. Works fine. It won't narrow down to mobile dimensions well, though.

[1] https://downside.com/news.html

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