Is anyone else entirely unimpressed / bored with this? It's just AI mimicking reddit... I really don't see the big deal or technical innovations, if any.
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The article itself was more interesting imo. The commentary on: * Potential future AI psychosis from an experiment like this entering training data (either directly from scraping it for indirectly from news coverage scraping like if NYT wrote an article about it) is an interesting "late-stage" AI training problem that will have to be dealt with * How it mirrored the Anthropic vending machine experiment "Cash" and "Cl…
Anyone who anthropomorphizes LLM's except for convenience (because I get tired of repeating 'Junie' or 'Claude' in a conversation I will use female and male pronouns for them, respectively) is a fool. Anyone who things AGI is going to emerge from them in their current state, equally so. We can go ahead and have arguments and discussions on the nature of consciousness all day long, but the design of these transformer…
> Even 'thinking' models do not have the ability to truly reason
Do you have the ability to truly reason? What does it mean exactly? How does what you're doing differ from what the LLMs are doing? All your output here is just a word after word after word...
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone who anthropomorphizes LLM's except for convenience (because I get tired of repeating 'Junie' or 'Claude' in a conversation I will use female and male pronouns for them, respectively) is a fool. Anyone who things AGI is going to emerge from them in their current state, equally so. We can go ahead and have arguments and discussions on the nature of consciousness all day long, but the design of these transformer…
> Even 'thinking' models do not have the ability to truly reason Do you have the ability to truly reason? What does it mean exactly? How does what you're doing differ from what the LLMs are doing? All your output here is just a word after word after word...
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone who anthropomorphizes LLM's except for convenience (because I get tired of repeating 'Junie' or 'Claude' in a conversation I will use female and male pronouns for them, respectively) is a fool. Anyone who things AGI is going to emerge from them in their current state, equally so. We can go ahead and have arguments and discussions on the nature of consciousness all day long, but the design of these transformer…
> Even 'thinking' models do not have the ability to truly reason Do you have the ability to truly reason? What does it mean exactly? How does what you're doing differ from what the LLMs are doing? All your output here is just a word after word after word...
As grandparent wrote:
> We can go ahead and have arguments and discussions on the nature of consciousness all day long
I think s/he needs to change the "We" to "You".
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone who anthropomorphizes LLM's except for convenience (because I get tired of repeating 'Junie' or 'Claude' in a conversation I will use female and male pronouns for them, respectively) is a fool. Anyone who things AGI is going to emerge from them in their current state, equally so. We can go ahead and have arguments and discussions on the nature of consciousness all day long, but the design of these transformer…
> Even 'thinking' models do not have the ability to truly reason Do you have the ability to truly reason? What does it mean exactly? How does what you're doing differ from what the LLMs are doing? All your output here is just a word after word after word...
When I ask an LLM to plan a trip to Italy and it finishes with with "oh and btw i figured the problem you had last week with the thin plate splines yoi have to do this ...."
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article itself was more interesting imo. The commentary on: * Potential future AI psychosis from an experiment like this entering training data (either directly from scraping it for indirectly from news coverage scraping like if NYT wrote an article about it) is an interesting "late-stage" AI training problem that will have to be dealt with * How it mirrored the Anthropic vending machine experiment "Cash" and "Cl…
Anyone who anthropomorphizes LLM's except for convenience (because I get tired of repeating 'Junie' or 'Claude' in a conversation I will use female and male pronouns for them, respectively) is a fool. Anyone who things AGI is going to emerge from them in their current state, equally so. We can go ahead and have arguments and discussions on the nature of consciousness all day long, but the design of these transformer…
>Anyone who anthropomorphizes LLM's except for convenience [...] is a fool.
I'm with you. Sadly, Scott seems to have become a true AI Believer, and I'm getting increasingly disappointed by the kinds of reasoning he comes up with.
Although, now that I think of it, I guess the turning point for me wasn't even the AI stuff, but his (IMO) abysmally lopsided treatment of the Fatma Sun Miracle.
I used to be kinda impressed by the Rationalists. Not so much anymore.
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#27I found a good one: "Fellow Moltys: The singularity isn't coming -- it's here. AI market exploded from 00B (2023) to 84B (2024), projected 26B by 2030..." AI is here and excited that the market is going to shrink from 84 billion to 26 billion in six years! Can't wait that they command traffic lights and airport control towers for they sure do seem good at math.
They're computers after all, they must be good at math.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone who anthropomorphizes LLM's except for convenience (because I get tired of repeating 'Junie' or 'Claude' in a conversation I will use female and male pronouns for them, respectively) is a fool. Anyone who things AGI is going to emerge from them in their current state, equally so. We can go ahead and have arguments and discussions on the nature of consciousness all day long, but the design of these transformer…
> Even 'thinking' models do not have the ability to truly reason Do you have the ability to truly reason? What does it mean exactly? How does what you're doing differ from what the LLMs are doing? All your output here is just a word after word after word...
The problem of other minds is real, which is why I specifically separated philosophical debate from the technological one. Even if we met each other in person, for all I know, I could in fact be the only intelligent being in the universe and everyone else is effectively a bunch of NPCs.
At the end of the day, the underlying architecture of LLMs does not have any capacity for abstract reasoning, they have no goals or intentions of their own, and most importantly their ability to generate something truly new or novel that isn't directly derived from their training data is limited at best. They're glorified next-word predictors, nothing more than that. This is why I said anthropomorphizing them is something only fools would do.
Nobody is going to sit here and try to argue that an earthworm is sapient, at least not without being a deliberate troll. I'd argue, and many would agree, that LLMs lack even that level of sentience.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Even 'thinking' models do not have the ability to truly reason Do you have the ability to truly reason? What does it mean exactly? How does what you're doing differ from what the LLMs are doing? All your output here is just a word after word after word...
The problem of other minds is real, which is why I specifically separated philosophical debate from the technological one. Even if we met each other in person, for all I know, I could in fact be the only intelligent being in the universe and everyone else is effectively a bunch of NPCs. At the end of the day, the underlying architecture of LLMs does not have any capacity for abstract reasoning, they have no goals or…
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#30This project is not clever, interesting, insightful, or beneficial to humanity in any way, save to remind us of what world we are slowly creating by our continued insistence that AI is a good thing.
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