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Death Note: L, Anonymity and Eluding Entropy (2011)

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Re: Death Note: L, Anonymity and Eluding Entropy (2011)

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Post by rk06 »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #12
hibikir wrote: post #6

The analysis forgets the very first problem after someone is killing criminals visibly: Light relies on TV to find them. You could tell it's Japan without doing any math about time zones or anythING, as TV itself brings in the bias. To pretend you are elsewhere, you have to be consuming foreign news to even begin to have a chance to hide yourself

Have you seen the show/read the manga? That's precisely the first tactic L uses against Light - he broadcasts that he has precise knowledge that he's somewhere in the Kanto region of Japan based on this timing. It's also mentioned in the article which you claim forgets to cover this.

OP is talking about different things which is also mentioned in manga.

to be more precise, OP says L should use the fact that Light selects criminals only when they appear on Japanese TV.

In the manga, L did track down earliest of murders to Japan and therefore started his "world" broadcast from one region in Japan.

Light got angry at broadcast's message.and lost his cool, and fell into the trap of "world broadcast"

Re: Death Note: L, Anonymity and Eluding Entropy (2011)

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Post by philipallstar »

tines wrote: post #15
philipallstar wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, power is another euphemism you could deconstruct as well. But that doesn't mean that you can just lock people up, in most countries. I certainly can't.

Uh, power is a euphemism? For what, pray tell?

In this case, for the ability to communicate to people who are strong to physically move someone somewhere else in a way that they will listen to. In that sense, you don't need power; you just need to be strong enough to physically move someone into a room and lock the door from the outside. Have I disproven the existence of power, or just described a component of it?

Re: Death Note: L, Anonymity and Eluding Entropy (2011)

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Post by throwaway314155 »

rk06 wrote: post #21
throwaway314155 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen the show/read the manga? That's precisely the first tactic L uses against Light - he broadcasts that he has precise knowledge that he's somewhere in the Kanto region of Japan based on this timing. It's also mentioned in the article which you claim forgets to cover this.

OP is talking about different things which is also mentioned in manga. to be more precise, OP says L should use the fact that Light selects criminals only when they appear on Japanese TV. In the manga, L did track down earliest of murders to Japan and therefore started his "world" broadcast from one region in Japan. Light got angry at broadcast's message.and lost his cool, and fell into the trap of "world broadcast"

I’m failing to see any distinction.

Re: Death Note: L, Anonymity and Eluding Entropy (2011)

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Post by rk06 »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #23
rk06 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP is talking about different things which is also mentioned in manga. to be more precise, OP says L should use the fact that Light selects criminals only when they appear on Japanese TV. In the manga, L did track down earliest of murders to Japan and therefore started his "world" broadcast from one region in Japan. Light got angry at broadcast's message.and lost his cool, and fell into the trap of "world broadcast"

I’m failing to see any distinction.

If my memory serves me right,L reduces it to Japan based on initial murder and then to kanto based on Live broadcast murder.
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