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Film students who can no longer sit through films

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Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

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> Smith has administered similar exams for almost two decades; he had to grade his most recent exam on a curve to keep students’ marks within a normal range. This is really silly. Just fail them. They are not customers.

They literally are customers. They pay money in exchange for an education and a degree. You start failing too many students, it becomes a risky place to enroll, enrollment drops, they can't cover their expenses, and they close. Edit: I'm not defending this, just explaining it. It's inevitable under a private education system, unless you literally legislate and enforce grading on a curve within all private institution…

Yes.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

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> Smith has administered similar exams for almost two decades; he had to grade his most recent exam on a curve to keep students’ marks within a normal range. This is really silly. Just fail them. They are not customers.

They literally are customers. They pay money in exchange for an education and a degree. You start failing too many students, it becomes a risky place to enroll, enrollment drops, they can't cover their expenses, and they close. Edit: I'm not defending this, just explaining it. It's inevitable under a private education system, unless you literally legislate and enforce grading on a curve within all private institution…

They are paying for the education, but not for the degree, and they’re not paying to get a passing grade even if they do poorly.

I wouldn’t necessarily agree that we should just fail the students, clearly something is going on if the professor has to use a curve unexpectedly, but we shouldn’t just accept this as okay simply because they are paying.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

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Is it a loss of attention span, or is the 2-hour feature film simply an outdated format for the current generation? The information density of a slow 1970s drama is incredibly low compared to the multi-stream environment they grew up in. They aren't necessarily 'dumber'; their brains are just optimized for high-frequency information processing, whereas cinema is optimized for immersion.

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Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

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Why would someone study film if they're not interested in it? People have been bored by movies nearly as long as movies have existed; but historically I don't think those people would go into college to study it.

What changed? It's not like there's a lot of money in film, so I struggle to understand the motivations there.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

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Is it a loss of attention span, or is the 2-hour feature film simply an outdated format for the current generation? The information density of a slow 1970s drama is incredibly low compared to the multi-stream environment they grew up in. They aren't necessarily 'dumber'; their brains are just optimized for high-frequency information processing, whereas cinema is optimized for immersion.

I do sometimes think about slow burn movies and how they are hard to find outside of Oscar bait type of pictures.

Just looking at kids movies, something like My Neighbor Totoro has many scenes involving ambient sound with no dialog or background music, and it’s a major contrast compared to today’s 3D dopamine festivals.

On the other hand, that might just be survivorship bias. I’m cherry picking the best kids movie of its decade and comparing it to Boss Baby 2.

Finally, I’d also say my default read of articles like this are that they’re probably idle “the kids these days are bad” concern bait.

A professor complaining that his students won’t do their homework is not new and it’s not news. It is a statistical certainty.

Avatar 3 is making a billion dollars on people willing to sit through a 2.5 hour movie.

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