Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
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Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, I'm familiar with the valuation. They were able to build this device and provide a Android TV certified 4K device that didn't need to have planned obsoleteness.
Yes. And it's ironic that they can do this ten years ago but can't be bothered to make a new one today. I guess the old one still works well enough and people buy it though which the article states. Feels like a reverse Bell Labs approach. They find their cash cow and only invest in their cash cow rather than research new product areas and fields.
> rather than research new product areas and field
Google “Gsync Pulsar”.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#23I have had two for 10 years and have no complaints whatsoever
The lack of hardware support for a few modern codecs is a pretty big complaint from me, but nothing else out there is decent :/
It depends what you're looking for. In the AV enthusiast circles a lot of people flock towards the Ugoos AM6B Plus (with CoreELEC).
It is one of the only devices (alongside Oppo clones) that can play Dolby Vision Profile 7 FEL (Full Enhancement Layer) with 100% accuracy. The Shield can play P7, but it ignores the FEL data; the Ugoos actually processes it.
That said, people don’t generally use Android on it, instead you boot to CoreELEC from an SD card and use Kodi.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#24Shield TV + extra storage + HDHomeRun tuner is still a great device for getting OTA TV. The only downside is that more recent versions use the Google Android TV launcher which is filled with a garbage truck full of ads, often for things I would never want to watch (horror movies? Nope!). Yes you can replace the launcher, but that's a pain. Would love to pay more for a device that has updated codec support, no ads or…
replacing launcher is gonna take you 10-15mins. 30 max if you aren’t a complete fool.
Oh, I've seen instructions, most of them start with "enable dev mode, then use adb to run ton of inscrutable commands that may or may not break the system over time".
Overall, it seems like a recipe to end up in an unknown state where you can no longer easily get updates and the only recovery is to wipe the system.
I've seen similar methods to "Clean up Windows 11", and it always seems like you're just putting the device into an unknown state. A few ads you can become blind to is not as bad as a totally broken system.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#25Shield TV + extra storage + HDHomeRun tuner is still a great device for getting OTA TV. The only downside is that more recent versions use the Google Android TV launcher which is filled with a garbage truck full of ads, often for things I would never want to watch (horror movies? Nope!). Yes you can replace the launcher, but that's a pain. Would love to pay more for a device that has updated codec support, no ads or…
replacing launcher is gonna take you 10-15mins. 30 max if you aren’t a complete fool.
Projectivy has turned out to be my favourite launcher for the Shield TV after trying a bunch. It displays only the things I want to see, and has a great deal of options.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
replacing launcher is gonna take you 10-15mins. 30 max if you aren’t a complete fool.
Oh, I've seen instructions, most of them start with "enable dev mode, then use adb to run ton of inscrutable commands that may or may not break the system over time". Overall, it seems like a recipe to end up in an unknown state where you can no longer easily get updates and the only recovery is to wipe the system. I've seen similar methods to "Clean up Windows 11", and it always seems like you're just putting the de…
If you are uncomfortable with ADB on the CLI, you can look up the subject ''Debloat++ Shield TV'' as discussed in XDA Forums' Shield TV subforum for how to use an app for that.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#27What a new model would need is more compat with DV and better software. Get rid of the Android ads. Add better frame rate matching. Etc.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, I'm familiar with the valuation. They were able to build this device and provide a Android TV certified 4K device that didn't need to have planned obsoleteness.
Yes. And it's ironic that they can do this ten years ago but can't be bothered to make a new one today. I guess the old one still works well enough and people buy it though which the article states. Feels like a reverse Bell Labs approach. They find their cash cow and only invest in their cash cow rather than research new product areas and fields.
Its not ironic, its perfect business sense. 10 years ago they gave a shit about gamers and streamers as they were their main market. Now its all about AI server hardware, and they are fighting off international mega clients who all want to secure their chip output for years to come.
Why would Nvidia give 2 hoots about a living room streaming box now?
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#29The Shield TV's cylindrical form factor could use a rethink. It is hard to find a good spot for it on a shelf when cords are connected at both ends (HDMI and MMC slot at one end, power and LAN at the other) and the ports are too close for all cords to use right-angle-heads. Leaving it invisible by placing it on the floor or behind other gear sometimes impedes Bluetooth signal, so there it sits, well apart from the AVR, BD, other devices.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#30I've got the OG model, and it's still the main device hooked up to my TV. All my TV streaming goes through it (mostly Jellyfin these days), and it can stream games no problem via Moonlight. It's hooked up to a 4k LG TV, and I have no idea about how it does the upscaling, but 720p content looks perfectly fine on it. Best (worst?) of all... it still gets updates.
The only two complaints about mine is the one set of updates about 5 years ago that killed every connection to my NAS, and that the auto skip function for credits doesn't know if there are scenes after the credits.
But overall, for running it for like 9 years with a cost of less than $200 and essentially zero maintenance, the shield is awesome.