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I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by PakG1 »

killwhitey wrote: post #17
ashray wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not worried about people self promoting. I'm worried about them having to . Do I want to hear about my friends getting engaged ? Yeah! Do I want them to pay for that to happen ? Hell no! > Your newsfeed is already controlled by your FB habits.. That's not necessarily a good thing. Also, I want to know what happens with everyone on my news feed. The ones I don't want to know about, I either unfriend them or block…

Ideally you would hear about your friends getting engaged without Facebook.

Although that's true, Facebook wants to change the game, no? Facebook wants to be the tool you use to tell all your friends about being engaged. So what is ideal is irrelevant if Facebook manages to change the game and become the preferred tool over phone, direct email, handwritten letters, and surprise dinner parties. Difficult road, especially replacing surprise dinner parties.

Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by pootch »

killwhitey wrote: post #17
ashray wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not worried about people self promoting. I'm worried about them having to . Do I want to hear about my friends getting engaged ? Yeah! Do I want them to pay for that to happen ? Hell no! > Your newsfeed is already controlled by your FB habits.. That's not necessarily a good thing. Also, I want to know what happens with everyone on my news feed. The ones I don't want to know about, I either unfriend them or block…

Ideally you would hear about your friends getting engaged without Facebook.

and without providing metadata to advertisers about it in the process

Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by pootch »

tomasien wrote: post #12

For what it's worth: I made a living for years promoting personal and community projects primarily through social media. I didn't spam people, I focused on engaging people with meaningful content. I would use the shit out of this feature, and plan to use next week to announce a buddy of mine's album release because I honestly think it's something the majority of my Facebook friends will love to at least check out. As…

You are a spammer

Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by napoleond »

pootch wrote: post #23
tomasien wrote: post #12

For what it's worth: I made a living for years promoting personal and community projects primarily through social media. I didn't spam people, I focused on engaging people with meaningful content. I would use the shit out of this feature, and plan to use next week to announce a buddy of mine's album release because I honestly think it's something the majority of my Facebook friends will love to at least check out. As…

You are a spammer

That's a pretty strong term, especially on HN. I don't know tomasien personally, but I find no reason to jump to your conclusion based on his comment--I, for one, would be happy to see a promoted post from a band/cause I like/care about, and that sort of content doesn't usually last long enough to be noticed on a feed dominated by daily/hourly/faster social interactions.

Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by lazugod »

tomasien wrote: post #12

For what it's worth: I made a living for years promoting personal and community projects primarily through social media. I didn't spam people, I focused on engaging people with meaningful content. I would use the shit out of this feature, and plan to use next week to announce a buddy of mine's album release because I honestly think it's something the majority of my Facebook friends will love to at least check out. As…

> but only GOOD content will actually benefit

No, only commercial content will benefit.

Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by flyt »

PakG1 wrote: post #20
stdbrouw wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, I recently announced that I was changing jobs and moving countries on Facebook, and pretty much all of my friends saw that message, because it's the sort of thing everyone likes and so Facebook will designate it as important whether you pay or not. An engagement would be similar. Events and PMs too, because you get notifications for those. This feature, it seems to me, would be most suitable for…

I think it depends on your habits. Facebook is unreliable for social interaction on a deep level for me because there is a negative cycle of reinforcement based on poor data. My closest friends are the ones who I want to hear the most about, and yet for some reason, their updates are the ones I see the least. Part of the reason was because my feed was flooded by people who used Facebook voraciously, though I consider…

Add those people to your "close friends" FB friend list (it's a default list that everybody has and can't delete) and you'll get a FB notification every time they do something. It can be noisy but if you have a small core of people it'll ensure you never miss what they're up to.

Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by chuppo »

PakG1 wrote: post #20
stdbrouw wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, I recently announced that I was changing jobs and moving countries on Facebook, and pretty much all of my friends saw that message, because it's the sort of thing everyone likes and so Facebook will designate it as important whether you pay or not. An engagement would be similar. Events and PMs too, because you get notifications for those. This feature, it seems to me, would be most suitable for…

I think it depends on your habits. Facebook is unreliable for social interaction on a deep level for me because there is a negative cycle of reinforcement based on poor data. My closest friends are the ones who I want to hear the most about, and yet for some reason, their updates are the ones I see the least. Part of the reason was because my feed was flooded by people who used Facebook voraciously, though I consider…

Email is the least secure technology you can pick. For my communications, sharing birthday-pictures and so on, Id like to know that it takes more than to just sniff the somewhere along its path.

Re: I Just Paid Facebook $7

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Post by jmyc »

I think this is a poor substitute for engagement/wedding/etc announcements in the newspaper. While he could, I suppose, buy ad space for an engagement announcement in a newspaper, they are submitted/printed for free (and put on the paper's website). Furthermore, it is seen by a wider audience than just your facebook friends (in fact it enters the public record), and you get a nice newspaper clipping. For example, my co-workers (whom I am not facebook friends with) brought in a clipping of my child's birth announcement and picture from the newspaper. I think it will be nice to show that to my child in later years. Would you show your child a screenshot of your facebook page? Print it out for a baby book?

(I realize that in his example he promoted a political joke, something that the newspaper wouldn't publish for free, and that it someone might want to supplement a newspaper announcement with a facebook thing.)

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