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Re: Best Gas Masks

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None of which are practical if you need to wear glasses.

In many cases, especially for the higher end models, you can spend in the neighborhood of $100 to get an Rx face-shield. On the note of matters that didn't seem to come up much in the article, but that I feel like people should know:

The kind of cartridge you need to withstand teargas is not an N95, as the top comment points out it's quite a bit more involved. The downside of that other than cost and duration of the filter is that you'll feel a lot more resistance on inhaling than you're used to. For some people the combination of something on their face and the feeling of restricted breathing is unbearable, and mid-tear gas attack is a terrible time to realize that.

Consider also that this becomes far more important if you're working hard, say running around or fighting. Anyone who has it in their head to give this a try should keep those factors in mind, as well as get a kit to properly fit-test because again... mid-attack is a terrible time to realize that your fit isn't up to snuff. Likewise with training to don and doff.

In a lot of ways the article feels like clickbait that's extremely self-aware, but not really concerned with the practical reality of what they're implying.

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Posting this article in this format reminds me of truly good story writing. Would've been a top 3 pieces of writing all time for me without all of the anecdotes in between. All of the information you need to know is already written without all of the in-your-faceness of the bridge paragraphs between reviews. Still an amazing story, props to the Verge. But could've been an all time great.

Bewildering comment. Without the anecdotes, this is just a product review. /s?

Re: Best Gas Masks

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post #21
post #12

None of which are practical if you need to wear glasses.

In many cases, especially for the higher end models, you can spend in the neighborhood of $100 to get an Rx face-shield. On the note of matters that didn't seem to come up much in the article, but that I feel like people should know: The kind of cartridge you need to withstand teargas is not an N95, as the top comment points out it's quite a bit more involved. The downside of that other than cost and duration of the…

Honestly the 3M 60923 cartridges don't restrict breathing at all. They have great airflow. I've used them all day long in chemical plants, no one complains about that.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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post #18

The problem I found was that some of them are designed to keep particulates out but aren't as worried about also keeping particulates in as well. This was relevant-circa 2020. No idea how these rank on that metric.

Surely that would be a cleanroom-style bunny suit?

Actually, just a normal 0: https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00038112/

1: https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00037933/

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#26
Yet another interesting article flagged because it touches on American politics.

What's the procedure for flagged articles become unflagged? Maybe do I need more karma or something before I can vouch for them?

Re: Best Gas Masks

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post #22

Posting this article in this format reminds me of truly good story writing. Would've been a top 3 pieces of writing all time for me without all of the anecdotes in between. All of the information you need to know is already written without all of the in-your-faceness of the bridge paragraphs between reviews. Still an amazing story, props to the Verge. But could've been an all time great.

Bewildering comment. Without the anecdotes, this is just a product review. /s?

You misunderstand.

> 3M does not provide product information on which filters are best for government repression

Great writing.

>When I eventually sat down to write my article about the Portland protests, I had a strange kind of epiphany, if it can even be called that. Out in the real world, when drowning in tear gas and adrenaline

Bad writing.

This is a genius product review right now for all the reasons everyone else thinks it is. I didn't need to read a single one of the authors personal experiences to understand the underlying message, or read ~100 words about their internal struggles to classify Portland as a riot versus a protest. The lack of brevity and conciseness seriously undercuts the absolute geniusness of maliciously compliant product reviews about gas masks in our current political climate.

My comment is about the art of subtlety. Again, this is an amazing article, but it's literally just been flagged by HN because it waxes poetic about politics instead of allowing all of that to be there without saying it. We can all read between the lines.

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#28
3M 6800 have all but sold out on Amazon, probably because of this review. I had almost forgotten about Portland in 2020. This author has some great writing about the double standard of non-violence as well. 10/10

Re: Best Gas Masks

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post #28

3M 6800 have all but sold out on Amazon, probably because of this review. I had almost forgotten about Portland in 2020. This author has some great writing about the double standard of non-violence as well. 10/10

I would generally use McMaster-Carr whenever possible. They will almost never go out of stock even during national crises. I don't generally trust Amazon for items that I can't validate myself due to counterfeiting, e.g. there's a lot of fake knockoff HEPA filters marketed as OEM.

3M 6000 full-face masks: https://www.mcmaster.com/5541T605/

The image shows just a particulate filter, but the listing actually includes 3M bayonet-style cartridges for chemical exposure.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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post #26

Yet another interesting article flagged because it touches on American politics. What's the procedure for flagged articles become unflagged? Maybe do I need more karma or something before I can vouch for them?

https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented

Normally most users can vouch for flagged submissions. The fact that this is non-vouchable is interesting.

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