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ICE and Palantir: US agents using health data to hunt illegal immigrants

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Re: ICE and Palantir: US agents using health data to hunt illegal immigrants

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

tgv wrote: post #17

Remember: every bit of data collected through a google-analytic, doubleclick, etc. link can potentially be abused for this as well. Techies have a responsibility as well. Remove them from your applications, or replace them with safer alternatives, and don't log (meta-)data just because it might be useful one day.

> every bit of data collected through a google-analytic, doubleclick, etc. link can potentially be abused for this as well

I’m confused by this shoehorning.

This article is about actual, not potential, abuse. It involves healthcare data the government owns being used in a novel and disturbing way. The only nexus to the private sector is in Palantir, but they aren’t bringing the data, just some analytic tools.

Re: ICE and Palantir: US agents using health data to hunt illegal immigrants

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

delichon wrote: post #8

Part of the Miranda warning is "anything you say can and will be used against you." I think of the "will be" part as a lie, because they're usually not that diligent or competent even when they're that malicious. But it's still a good heuristic when it comes to giving your PII to the government. I used to be an outlier conspiracy theorist for believing that. To those coming around to it, welcome.

> it's still a good heuristic when it comes to giving your PII to the government

The heuristic is to not participate in modern medicine?

Re: ICE and Palantir: US agents using health data to hunt illegal immigrants

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Post by tomaytotomato »

How are Palantir so effective (as this article is alluding)?

From a cynical British perspective, when I think of government departments and civil servants. I think inefficiency, data siloing, politics and lack of communication between departments and also internally not communicating between teams. Not withstanding a lack of cooperating and willingness to change.

Did Palantir have a political mandate, or can they just cut through the bureaucracy or bypass it with technology?

Re: ICE and Palantir: US agents using health data to hunt illegal immigrants

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Post by njhnjhnjhnjh »

mlnj wrote: post #12
Waterluvian wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure I’d even call it that. It was obvious and happened in broad daylight in front of everyone. But much the ICE assaults, there isn’t much Americans can really do about it.

"We've tried nothing and are out of ideas." Sounds like Americans are in general fine with all of it. Voting patterns hold. General sentiment still remains aligned with the status quo. There does not seem like there are any consequences for the representatives to not represent the people.

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