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Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

Tepix wrote: post #8

Huggingface Link: https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.5 1T parameters, 32b active parameters. License: MIT with the following modification: Our only modification part is that, if the Software (or any derivative works thereof) is used for any of your commercial products or services that have more than 100 million monthly active users, or more than 20 million US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) in mont…

Hey have they open sourced all Kimi k2.5 (thinking,instruct,agent,agent swarm [beta])?

Because I feel like they mentioned that agent swarm is available their api and that made me feel as if it wasn't open (weights)*? Please let me know if all are open source or not?

Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

Reubend wrote: post #18
pplonski86 wrote: post #14

There are so many models, is there any website with list of all of them and comparison of performance on different tasks?

The post actually has great benchmark tables inside of it. They might be outdated in a few months, but for now, it gives you a great summary. Seems like Gemini wins on image and video perf, Claude is the best at coding, ChatGPT is the best for general knowledge. But ultimately, you need to try them yourself on the tasks you care about and just see. My personal experience is that right now, Gemini Pro performs the bes…

I like Gemini Pro's UI over Claude so much but honestly I might start using Kimi K2.5 if its open source & just +/- Gemini Pro/Chatgpt/Claude because at that point I feel like the results are negligible and we are getting SOTA open source models again.

Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by NitpickLawyer »

zmmmmm wrote: post #16

Curious what would be the most minimal reasonable hardware one would need to deploy this locally?

I parsed "reasonable" as in having reasonable speed to actually use this as intended (in agentic setups). In that case, it's a minimum of 70-100k for hardware (8x 6000 PRO + all the other pieces to make it work). The model comes with native INT4 quant, so ~600GB for the weights alone. An 8x 96GB setup would give you ~160GB for kv caching.

You can of course "run" this on cheaper hardware, but the speeds will not be suitable for actual use (i.e. minutes for a simple prompt, tens of minutes for high context sessions per turn).

Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by dheera »

Tepix wrote: post #8

Huggingface Link: https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.5 1T parameters, 32b active parameters. License: MIT with the following modification: Our only modification part is that, if the Software (or any derivative works thereof) is used for any of your commercial products or services that have more than 100 million monthly active users, or more than 20 million US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) in mont…

> or more than 20 million US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) in monthly revenue, you shall prominently display "Kimi K2.5" on the user interface of such product or service.

Why not just say "you shall pay us 1 million dollars"?

Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by clayhacks »

dheera wrote: post #24
Tepix wrote: post #8

Huggingface Link: https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.5 1T parameters, 32b active parameters. License: MIT with the following modification: Our only modification part is that, if the Software (or any derivative works thereof) is used for any of your commercial products or services that have more than 100 million monthly active users, or more than 20 million US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) in mont…

> or more than 20 million US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) in monthly revenue, you shall prominently display "Kimi K2.5" on the user interface of such product or service. Why not just say "you shall pay us 1 million dollars"?

I assume this allows them to sue for different amounts. And not discourage too many people from using it.

Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by [deleted] »

jumploops wrote: post #4

> For complex tasks, Kimi K2.5 can self-direct an agent swarm with up to 100 sub-agents, executing parallel workflows across up to 1,500 tool calls. > K2.5 Agent Swarm improves performance on complex tasks through parallel, specialized execution [..] leads to an 80% reduction in end-to-end runtime Not just RL on tool calling, but RL on agent orchestration, neat!

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Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by Jackson__ »

As your local vision nut, their claims about "SOTA" vision are absolutely BS in my tests.

Sure it's SOTA at standard vision benchmarks. But on tasks that require proper image understanding, see for example BabyVision[0] it appears very much lacking compared to Gemini 3 Pro.

[0] https://arxiv.org/html/2601.06521v1

Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by pplonski86 »

coffeeri wrote: post #17
pplonski86 wrote: post #14

There are so many models, is there any website with list of all of them and comparison of performance on different tasks?

There is https://artificialanalysis.ai

Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for

Re: Kimi Released Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual SOTA-Agentic Model

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Post by Topfi »

K2 0905 and K2 Thinking shortly after that have done impressively well in my personal use cases and was severely slept on. Faster, more accurate, less expensive, more flexible in terms of hosting and available months before Gemini 3 Flash, I really struggle to understand why Flash got such positive attention at launch.

Interested in the dedicated Agent and Agent Swarm releases, especially in how that could affect third party hosting of the models.

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