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Why Windows Just Can’t Win

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Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

#21
I completely agree with the following from the article:

"Even when Microsoft has a great product on its hands, even when its product, engineering and design teams manage to hit one out of the park, it won’t matter once the business team comes in and ruins it for everyone."

The whole history of all screw ups from Microsoft just confirms that.

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

#22
This article demonstrates the increasing gap between tech reporters and consumers. Announcements and marketing aren't the metrics for the quality of a product. Design, user experience and features will ultimately decide whether the latest line of Microsoft products succeeds.

But he does have a point with bloatware and control over the brand. I commonly associate the Windows brand with garbage software that comes pre-installed on every PC.

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

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post #21

I completely agree with the following from the article: "Even when Microsoft has a great product on its hands, even when its product, engineering and design teams manage to hit one out of the park, it won’t matter once the business team comes in and ruins it for everyone." The whole history of all screw ups from Microsoft just confirms that.

Yep. There was a great article a while back about how the Start button orb for Windows 7 and the Start button search box (one of the best features of modern Windows) were thought up and programmed very quickly, but took several months to be properly implemented and debugged because of management.

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

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post #19

"Oh, and can you guess when Apple — now the world’s biggest company — announces its first earnings post-iPhone 5? Oct. 24. " Uh, yeah. An earnings report is going to steal the thunder of a product launch. "It doesn’t matter if Microsoft creates the greatest operating system in the world if it then allows others to junk it up. And, ultimately, it means that Microsoft isn’t in control of its brand." No one can succeed…

I feel like consumers are clamoring for an Android phone that runs stock Jelly Bean. The Nexus 7 shipped with stock Android 4.1 and it has been very successful in the tablet market.

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

#25

Wait, Windows 8 and Windows RT are different things?

Definitely.

Windows 8 runs as Windows 8 and as Windows 8 RT. However, there's also WinRT which is something else:

WinRT == Windows Runtime

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Runtime

"Not to be confused with Windows RT"

Now

"Windows RT (formerly known as Windows on ARM) is an upcoming version of the Windows 8 operating system for ARM devices such as tablets. The RT acronym does not officially stand for anything.[1] It will officially only run software available through the Windows Store or included in Windows RT."

Homework: try to explain that in less words. :)

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People said the same exactly thing w.r.t Android when Windows Phone 7 was released. I think history speaks for itself.

The WP7 was a flop indeed. They launched it almost without any backup. With the W8 product line however, they rebranded everything, creating an unitary brand image, much like Apple did a while ago. And that's why I did the Android statement. They provide to all the predominantly tech savvy users of Android an unified experience that is not Cupertino flavored.

I think that you are missing the factors why tech savvy users of Android use Android and not iPhone. It is not the vendor of the tech, it is what you can do with it. With WP8, Microsoft copied from Apple exactly those things, that Android users do not want.

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

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post #24
post #19

"Oh, and can you guess when Apple — now the world’s biggest company — announces its first earnings post-iPhone 5? Oct. 24. " Uh, yeah. An earnings report is going to steal the thunder of a product launch. "It doesn’t matter if Microsoft creates the greatest operating system in the world if it then allows others to junk it up. And, ultimately, it means that Microsoft isn’t in control of its brand." No one can succeed…

I feel like consumers are clamoring for an Android phone that runs stock Jelly Bean. The Nexus 7 shipped with stock Android 4.1 and it has been very successful in the tablet market.

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexu...

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

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post #25

Wait, Windows 8 and Windows RT are different things?

Definitely. Windows 8 runs as Windows 8 and as Windows 8 RT. However, there's also WinRT which is something else: WinRT == Windows Runtime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Runtime "Not to be confused with Windows RT" Now "Windows RT (formerly known as Windows on ARM) is an upcoming version of the Windows 8 operating system for ARM devices such as tablets. The RT acronym does not officially stand for anything.[1]…

I've been a Software Engineer developing software for 10 years and I don't understand one word of that.

If I'm confused, I have to wonder how the average Joe is going to keep up.

If they keep this up, I agree Windows just can't win.

Re: Why Windows Just Can’t Win

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post #24
post #19

"Oh, and can you guess when Apple — now the world’s biggest company — announces its first earnings post-iPhone 5? Oct. 24. " Uh, yeah. An earnings report is going to steal the thunder of a product launch. "It doesn’t matter if Microsoft creates the greatest operating system in the world if it then allows others to junk it up. And, ultimately, it means that Microsoft isn’t in control of its brand." No one can succeed…

I feel like consumers are clamoring for an Android phone that runs stock Jelly Bean. The Nexus 7 shipped with stock Android 4.1 and it has been very successful in the tablet market.

indeed, reportedly Google sold about a million Nexus 7s in Q3 when it was available in only some markets http://www.slashgear.com/google-said-to-have-sold-up-to-1m-n...

In comparison, Amazon sold 5 million Kindle Fires from last year to end of August.

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