The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.
Proton spam and the AI consent problem
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Re: Proton spam and the AI consent problem
#22> Proton for Business newsletter AFAIK you are legally allowed to spam businesses, but not individuals. A handy get-out clause for marketeers.
How do you know the address you’re emailing belongs to a business? The head of A&A ISP in the UK used to regularly win ~£100 judgements in small claims from spammers because his personal email was leased for a nominal fee from aa.net.uk, the same domain as his business.
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#23I only use Proton for the spam or temporary low value (and free) email accounts. Proton also tries to do everything, which I don't like. If I did I'd use Google. The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.
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#25I think we must make it clear that this is not related to AI at all, even if the product in question is AI-related. It is a very common problem with modern marketing teams, that have zero empathy for customers (even if they have one, they will never push back on whatever insane demands come from senior management). This is why any email subscription management interface now is as bloated as a dead whale. If too many…
We the users get a barrage of e-mails everyday because every marketing team is thinking we only get their mail, and it makes our lonely and cold mailbox merrier.
No, users are in constant "Tsunami warning!" mode and these teams are not helping.
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#26Odd, I didn't even know Proton had an AI feature until I read this article. Didn't get an email or tooltip while using the app. Didn't previously explicitly opt-out either, and when I check my notification settings, Lumo product updates is set to disabled. Maybe someone's feature gate isn't working as intended? I did get the Github Copilot spam email today though.
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#27I saw a Mastodon tweet a while ago, which went something like: Do tech companies understand consent?: - [ ] Yes - [ ] Ask me again in a few days
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#28This is not an AI problem, it's an "data privacy + lack of consequences problem". It happens everywhere. I mean, have you ever tried making an airline company to stop sending their shitty miles newsletters? Only way to stop is to start fining these companies.
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#29For me, these kinds of emails especially stick out, because I like to keep my proton inbox clean and unsubscribe from everything I can.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree. The number of services i use where the apps continually add new marketing preferences which are defaulted to ‘enabled’ despite the fact that all other preferences are disabled is disgusting and clearly used by some companies to ignore people’s actual preferences. LinkedIn is one of the worst offenders.
Have you noticed certain financial providers sending blatant marketing emails with no unsubscribe option and a comment along the lines of "these emails are not marketing"