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Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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I just changed a valve in one of these shower handles last year. They’re great. The Moen shower handles are pretty good too but the cartridges require a special tool to replace.

> the cartridges require a special tool to replace.

I find foul language to be the most effective tool for this job.

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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post #5

These are still very common in Sweden. I installed one when I renovated my kitchen a couple of years ago for example. Different design of course, but the same mechanism. 2 out of three bathrooms have similar ones too! Iirc the shower in the guest house does as well, but memory is fuzzy and I'm currently too far to check

When shopping for a home in Sweden, seeing a kitchen without single handed faucets is a telltale sign that the whole kitchen was designed with form prioritized over function.

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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If you live in an economy where these are uncommon, travelling to one where they are common and especially the equivalent for shower control in hotels.. is a logistical nightmare.

Its the eigenvalue of taps. It's hot, or it's not, and which orifice it's coming out of is completely unclear as well as which motion causes more, or less of water and heat.

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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post #16

Oh my god, actual dimensions on a drawing, part numbers, AND service instructions!?! I work on industrial equipment with 1/10th the documentation presented here. Cool find, op!

No wonder our grandparents generation were good with mechanical things. If they were looking at materials like that all the time - I feel like you'd build an intuitive sense of how common household devices work pretty easily if it were so clear and accessible.

Literature on doing things was much more practical. There was a culture of things being repairable. There was a pride in one’s work. Check this out if you don’t believe me: http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1617/30720.pdf

The rise of the publicly traded corporation run by fiduciary duty has, in my opinion, squeezed out repairability, pride, and workmanship for marginal financial gains.

I fear it won’t have been worth it in the long run. Shame short term incentives run the show.

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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These types of faucets are so common where I live that I can’t really imagine what the alternative is. What do you have if you don’t have this?

Separate knobs for hot and cold, like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/MOEN-Brantford-4-in-Centerset-2-...

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No wonder our grandparents generation were good with mechanical things. If they were looking at materials like that all the time - I feel like you'd build an intuitive sense of how common household devices work pretty easily if it were so clear and accessible.

Materials like this are infinitely more accessible to us than our grandparents generation. We all have devices in our pockets that can get to service manuals for our products in minutes. I can have common parts at my door overnight from Amazon with the press of a button on my phone. Every local hardware store carries replacement cartridges and gaskets for common faucet types. The reason our grandparents generation wa…

I mean, a generation or two ago, people frequently learned to do things like replace spark plugs and alternators and mess with oil changes.

My generation learned how to plug computer components together and install operating systems and drivers.

The reason people did that is because they (more or less) had to.

The generation being born today will need neither of those skill sets.

Cars, by and large, stay working for as long as people care to keep them and the things that do go wrong are, mostly, uneconomical to fix at home.

It's likewise rare for, dunno, uninstalling a video game to accidentally delete some crucial OS dependency that causes the thing to need to be reformatted.

It's hard to say what skills the next generation will learn, but I can guarantee there will be something that they need that their children will not. And that they'll complain about their children being useless for not knowing whatever that is.

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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post #23

If you live in an economy where these are uncommon, travelling to one where they are common and especially the equivalent for shower control in hotels.. is a logistical nightmare. Its the eigenvalue of taps. It's hot, or it's not, and which orifice it's coming out of is completely unclear as well as which motion causes more, or less of water and heat.

Left and right for hot and cold, up and down for more and less flow. Very intuitive.

It sems these days shower valves have all been enshittified to have exactly one dimension, which proceeds from "off" to "small trickle of cold water", then "slow flow of warm water", and finally "slow flow of barely hot water".

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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These types of faucets are so common where I live that I can’t really imagine what the alternative is. What do you have if you don’t have this?

Separate knobs for hot and cold, like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/MOEN-Brantford-4-in-Centerset-2-...

Getting ”Access Denied” from that link.

Re: Delta single handle ball faucets (1963)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Materials like this are infinitely more accessible to us than our grandparents generation. We all have devices in our pockets that can get to service manuals for our products in minutes. I can have common parts at my door overnight from Amazon with the press of a button on my phone. Every local hardware store carries replacement cartridges and gaskets for common faucet types. The reason our grandparents generation wa…

I mean, a generation or two ago, people frequently learned to do things like replace spark plugs and alternators and mess with oil changes. My generation learned how to plug computer components together and install operating systems and drivers. The reason people did that is because they (more or less) had to. The generation being born today will need neither of those skill sets. Cars, by and large, stay working for…

No, we just outsourced car maintenance to professional shop services. Both because mechanical aspects have become reliable enough to last a year without maintenance and because electronic/computer aspects are mind-bogglingly complicated.
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