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EU Parliament freezes US trade deal ratification

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sadly you are not wrong. Or at least partially not wrong. I wouldn't say pissing off, but more like 'not in a position for negotiations'. As we speak, EU is constantly slowing down their own companies while being fully dependant on US technology software and AI, being fully dependant on China's sources, chemicals, car-parts and batteries and importing (AFAIK still) Russian gas (which does not prevent german green act…

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I gave you an upvote because you're correct. EU leadership has no ability to think strategically.

Actually the Green deal is an attempt at that. Masked as a way to save the planet, its goal is to get rid of deep dependencies like gas oil etc, which we in Europe don't have sufficiently.

The main issue is the way the transition is happening, because I see China doing exactly what we should be doing: build coal, nuclear, etc. while you build tons of solar panels or windfarms.

The self inflicting pain forced by radical ideas is what is killing Europe. We have lost the pragmatism that made Europe move at a crazy speed after WW2.

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All this hullabaloo about trade, tariffs and international relations has really got me thinking about the role of career "diplomats". I know of (peripherally) a few european people who have studied for this as a career, they've spent a lot of time on it (education wise). From far away it seems like a professional-level thing like being a doctor or a lawyer. They spend a lot of time studying, then working at the gov l…

There are many affairs of state that won't be skillfully managed by someone learning on the job every 4-8 years.

You wouldn't replace the entire CIA with political appointees every 4-8 years would you?

The CDC will need people that remember COVID in 30 years, will it not?

Surely, the delegation to Tehran should have some people that speak Farsi and have known their counterparts for 15-20 years, right?

The people at the top can't possibly have institutional knowledge for all the institutions under their control. Even a statesman like George H. W. Bush only has institutional knowledge for one branch of the military and the CIA. Should we have shown his competency in the affairs of the state department, department of energy, education, FBI, etc.?

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"Carney said this more isolationist approach, where there's a "world of fortresses," will make countries poorer, fragile and less sustainable. But it's coming nonetheless and Canada must work with like-minded allies where possible to push back against domination by larger, wealthier and well-armed countries." New trade relationships are being forged surprisingly quickly in the midst of all this. Anyone have a list of…

Mercosur took 20 years to finalize and if it wasn't for recent unhingedness of American politics, I would expect it to get vetoed by special farmer interests in the last minute. But the threat became too big for that. But yeah, there will be some urgency now. In times of need, people find out that all the "necessary" bureaucracy isn't really that necessary. War or threat of war is the only thing stronger than red tap…

20 years and counting. The Mercosur deal still needs to pass the EU Parliament, and it’s not scheduled to come up for at least a few months. The EU’s Parliament is also nearly split down the middle on the deal which means there’s still about a 50/50 it fails, maybe 51/49 or 52/48 in its favor at the moment, but it is very close and still has about as much chance of passing as not passing at this juncture.

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It all seems so surprisingly unnecessary. Angry geriatric man f*cks the world up for generations to come, then in a short bit he will die, and not have to live through the consequences.

Even if Trump died today, Vance would continue his nefarious job.

Exactly, just see the gal of garbage spewed by for example Scott Bessent at the WEF yesterday. The arrogance is outright insulting.

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Russia is still an energy provider to Europe. Do we provide any security guarantees to Qatar or can protect the shipping lanes? We can not. It is controlled by the US, which is also a major supplier. For every political squeeze EU can do, the US can squeeze 10x as hard. ASML also has quite a lot of US suppliers. We are all tech dependent on each other, but China is working hard to fix that and the US also.

The US is providing security guarantees to Qatar? When did the Senate vote on those?

Last I checked, Qatar was kicking out US personnel from Al Udeid because of Trump's threats to use it as a forward base against Iran.

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All this hullabaloo about trade, tariffs and international relations has really got me thinking about the role of career "diplomats". I know of (peripherally) a few european people who have studied for this as a career, they've spent a lot of time on it (education wise). From far away it seems like a professional-level thing like being a doctor or a lawyer. They spend a lot of time studying, then working at the gov l…

There are many affairs of state that won't be skillfully managed by someone learning on the job every 4-8 years. You wouldn't replace the entire CIA with political appointees every 4-8 years would you? The CDC will need people that remember COVID in 30 years, will it not? Surely, the delegation to Tehran should have some people that speak Farsi and have known their counterparts for 15-20 years, right? The people at t…

Appreciate the reply. I see your argument, I'll have to reframe my statements better.

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"Carney said this more isolationist approach, where there's a "world of fortresses," will make countries poorer, fragile and less sustainable. But it's coming nonetheless and Canada must work with like-minded allies where possible to push back against domination by larger, wealthier and well-armed countries." New trade relationships are being forged surprisingly quickly in the midst of all this. Anyone have a list of…

Mercosur took 20 years to finalize and if it wasn't for recent unhingedness of American politics, I would expect it to get vetoed by special farmer interests in the last minute. But the threat became too big for that. But yeah, there will be some urgency now. In times of need, people find out that all the "necessary" bureaucracy isn't really that necessary. War or threat of war is the only thing stronger than red tap…

>I would expect it to get vetoed by special farmer interests

IDK man, I feel like supporting the local farming industry is a pretty important strategic move, even if it's a loss leader.

We already offshored manufacturing, energy supply and IT to our "allies" in the past and it's biting us in the ass right now.

Do we really want to repeat the same mistake again with food?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if Trump died today, Vance would continue his nefarious job.

Exactly, just see the gal of garbage spewed by for example Scott Bessent at the WEF yesterday. The arrogance is outright insulting.

The U.S. can't really afford the status quo regardless who is in office.
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