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The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

I feel like just use claude code. That is it. Use it you get the feel for it. Everyone is over complicating.

It is like learning to code itself. You need flight hours.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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> The Real Bottleneck: Time

Already a "no", the bottleneck is "drowning under your own slop". Ever noticed how fast agents seems to be able to do their work in the beginning of the project, but the larger it grows, it seems to get slower at doing good changes that doesn't break other things?

This is because you're missing the "engineering" part of software engineering, where someone has to think about the domain, design, tradeoffs and how something will be used, which requires good judgement and good wisdom regarding what is a suitable and good design considering what you want to do.

Lately (last year or so), more client jobs of mine have basically been "Hey, so we have this project that someone made with LLMs, they basically don't know how it works, but now we have a ton of users, could you redo it properly?", and in all cases, the applications have been built with zero engineering and with zero (human) regards to design and architecture.

I have no yet have any clients come to me and say "Hey, our current vibe-coders are all busy and don't have time, help us with X", it's always "We've built hairball X, rescue us please?", and that to me makes it pretty obvious what the biggest bottleneck with this sort of coding is.

Moving slower is usually faster long-term granted you think about the design, but obviously slower short-term, which makes it kind of counter-intuitive.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

I don't think so it seems the aspiration of these tools is it'll be agents all the way down.

A high level task is given and outpops a working solution.

A) If you can't program and you're just happy to have something working you're safe.

B) If you're an experienced programmer and can specify the structure of the solution you're safe.

In between, is where it seems people will struggle. How do you get from A to B.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

The idea is to produce such articles, not read them. Do not even read them as the agent is spitting them out - simply feed straight into another agent to verify.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

> I never had any luck integrating agents

What exactly do you mean with "integrating agents" and what did you try?

The simplest (and what I do) is not "integrating them" anywhere, but just replace the "copy-paste code + write prompt + copy output to code" with "write prompt > agent reads code > agent changes code > I review and accept/reject". Not really "integration" as much as just a workflow change.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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post #3

I sometimes feel like the cognitive cost of agentic coding is so much higher than a skilled human. There is so much more bootstrap and handling process around making sure agents don't go off the rails (they will), or that they will adhere to their goals (they won't). And in my experience fixing issues downstream takes more effort than solving the issue at the root. The pipe dream of agents handling Github Issue -> Pu…

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Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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All of this might as well be greek to me. I use ChatGPT and copy paste code snippets. Which was bleeding edge a year or two ago, and now it feels like banging rocks together when reading these types of articles. I never had any luck integrating agents, MCP, using tools etc. Like if I'm not ready to jump on some AI-spiced up special IDE, am I then going to just be left banging rocks together? It feels like some of the…

Yeah if you've not used codex/agent tooling yet it's a paradigm shift in the way of working, and once you get it it's very very difficult to go back to the copy-pasta technique.

There's obviously a whole heap of hype to cut through here, but there is real value to be had.

For example yesterday I had a bug where my embedded device was hard crashing when I called reset. We narrowed it down to the tool we used to flash the code.

I downloaded the repository, jumped into codex, explained the symptoms and it found and fixed the bug in less than ten minutes.

There is absolutely no way I'd of been able to achieve that speed of resolution myself.

Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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> The Real Bottleneck: Time Already a "no", the bottleneck is "drowning under your own slop". Ever noticed how fast agents seems to be able to do their work in the beginning of the project, but the larger it grows, it seems to get slower at doing good changes that doesn't break other things? This is because you're missing the "engineering" part of software engineering, where someone has to think about the domain, des…

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Re: The Agentic AI Handbook: Production-Ready Patterns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finally found the perfect way to describe what I feel when I read stuff like this.

I Would Rather Read The Prompt (IWRRTP)

I hereby second the motion to get this acronym widely adopted
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