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Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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Post by dylan604 »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #2

>“There’s no way that you can do a full investigation of every possible signal that you detect, because doing that still requires a person and eyeballs,” he said. “We have to do a better job of measuring what we’re excluding. Are we throwing out the baby with the bath water? I don’t think we know for most SETI searches, and that is really a lesson for SETI searches everywhere.” Is this not the perfect job for AI toda…

Digest signals for 30 years and report back? That's one hell of a super computer and significantly faster than Deep Thought

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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Post by bulbar »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #10
CamperBob2 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that's why they won't find anything, IMHO. Anyone who spends five minutes thinking about the consequences of deliberately transmitting interstellar beacon signals will conclude that the only safe, sane thing to do is STFU. At the same time, no advanced civilizations will be using coherent RF communications that stand out from the noise floor, because it makes little sense to keep doing that once your civilization…

Anyone who spends five minutes thinking about the consequences of deliberately leaving your house will conclude that the only safe, sane thing to do is stay the fuck inside.

Having it safe to go outside is the very point of a society.

Outside of this safety Bubble there's a strong tendency for conflict and war. Only after two cruel world wars and a prolonged cold war, the western world got their shit together and decided 'enough of that'. And even that doesn't seem to hold much longer, so it seems we will only have managed to live peaceful among each other without an immediate conflict with somebody (cold war) for roughly 30 years.

If aliens are remotely like us, they shouldn't know about us.

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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Post by adastra22 »

jondwillis wrote: post #18
cpncrunch wrote: post #8

This assumes that ETs are deliberately transmitting high power signals towards us (or into space in general), although I'm not sure that is a reasonable assumption. I think it would generally be unwise to loudly announce a civilization's presence. According to chatgpt, our current earth-based radio telescopes would only be able to detect signals equivalent to radio leakage from earth at a distance of 1 light year.

ask chaptgpt about space telescopes

There are no space-based radio telescopes.

(Well, none pointing at stars at least. There are some spy sats pointed down.)

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Post by CJefferson »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #2

>“There’s no way that you can do a full investigation of every possible signal that you detect, because doing that still requires a person and eyeballs,” he said. “We have to do a better job of measuring what we’re excluding. Are we throwing out the baby with the bath water? I don’t think we know for most SETI searches, and that is really a lesson for SETI searches everywhere.” Is this not the perfect job for AI toda…

No, AI are terrible at finding these types of patterns.

You could hypothetically use AI to write algorithms to find the patterns, but people have already spent a long time super-tuning them.

AIs can't even (at least I keep checking) solve Sudokus as well as my mother -- they aren't good with piles of numbers and complex patterns.

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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Post by dylan604 »

jondwillis wrote: post #16

I remember donating a bit of my Alienware gaming laptop GPU on uni ethernet LAN in like 2010 ROFLMAO

I was at a shop that had beefy workstations for 3D/video/graphics work that I thought I was cool for running @home on the 10 boxes we had. I remember popping up in the top 100 list for a minute.

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Post by dylan604 »

adastra22 wrote: post #24
jondwillis wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ask chaptgpt about space telescopes

There are no space-based radio telescopes. (Well, none pointing at stars at least. There are some spy sats pointed down.)

could you imagine something as big as Arecibo was or FAST is floating in space? That'd be impressive. Would a constellation set up more like VLA be possible? Keep increasing the size of it with Starlink like launches??

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Post by guybedo »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #2

>“There’s no way that you can do a full investigation of every possible signal that you detect, because doing that still requires a person and eyeballs,” he said. “We have to do a better job of measuring what we’re excluding. Are we throwing out the baby with the bath water? I don’t think we know for most SETI searches, and that is really a lesson for SETI searches everywhere.” Is this not the perfect job for AI toda…

Claude Code: i'm entering plan mode to analyze the 10B signals in the database

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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Post by rippeltippel »

pokstad wrote: post #3

> They have been pointing China’s Five-hundred-meter Aperture Spherical Telescope, a radio telescope referred to as FAST, at these targets since July, hoping to see the signals again. This is how you get Trisolarians knocking on your door!

I guess we'll find out in a few decades.
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