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Minor says ICE took his iPhone, later found in used-electronics vending machine
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People aren't resisting arrest. When you see people bloodied, beaten, permanently blinded by point blank non lethal weapons, or just shot in the face, that's because ICE / cops / CBP are doing it for their own personal enjoyment, and making sure the minimal amount of setup is there so they can claim they did nothing wrong. Cops finding excuses to kick the shit out of people who bother them is as old as policing itself. There's tens of thousands of accounts per year of this sort of thing, extreme examples being like Derek Chauvin, or more old school look up Abner Louima, but tons of garden variety cruelty every day, everywhere, done in the name of "fuck that asshole we're gonna fuck him up". The ICE version, run by fascist maniacs, is selecting for only the cruelest and most ideologically driven employees, but ICE had this reputation even before the current administration. It's just they have 80 billion dollars now to make it happen.
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#23The disturbing part isn’t that bad encounters happen — it’s that these techniques are officially banned, yet keep showing up across unrelated cases. When policy and on-the-ground behavior diverge this consistently, it stops looking like individual misconduct and starts looking like a systems problem.
In Minneapolis there are videos of ICE blocking off residential neighborhoods and going door, demanding ID of residents.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qbawlr/minnea...
These aren’t bad apples, ICE operates without regard to the law by design.
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> The laws that ICE is enforcing were written by both parties.
Oh, which Congress members sponsored the laws on stealing people's stuff? I missed that one.
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The over reach and application are owned by one.
eg: ICE has no authority wrt traffic stops and the kind of actions taken recently.
Door to door ID dragnets are not part of the written laws, etc.
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Do you mean the “unreasonable search and seizure” part? Or “habeas corpus”?
Sorry, they may be enforcing laws, but the method of enforcement itself appears unlawful.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
to counter 2) ICE is not police. There is nothing differentiating them from armed thugs. No bages, no ID's, no faces etc. There is no reason to do ANYTHING these people ask. to counter 3) I would say there's a clear chick and egg here. ICE started behaving in a way that is now being met with an equal and opposite reactionary force. If ICE can stop acting like some SS wannabe force, the vigilantism goes away as well.…
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#29It's probably a good thing that gold fillings/caps aren't that common these days.
Man that's dark. True though.
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The laws ICE are breaking are written by both parties.