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Influencers and OnlyFans models are dominating U.S. O-1 visa requests

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Re: Influencers and OnlyFans models are dominating U.S. O-1 visa requests

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Post by potato3732842 »

TZubiri wrote: post #18

"Whoever knowingly transports any individual in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, with intent that such individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both"

You see comrade, the government represents all of us, so when the government deems something beneficial and worth doing we all benefit /s

Me dumping oil on the ground -> bad.

megacorp paying some engineers to make up a number for just how much oil is ok to dump on the ground and paying for government permission -> good

Diddy flying hoes around -> bad

OF models paying the .gov to fly around -> good

(I'm joking here, but not nearly as much as I wish I was)

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Post by palata »

darth_avocado wrote: post #13
areoform wrote: post #9

Such articles are interesting because they're tacit disapproval, but I would argue that this use of the O-1 is the most American way to use it. There's a reason why Hollywood became the Earth's center of cultural gravity post-WW2, https://goldenglobes.com/articles/exiles-and-emigres-hollywo... You may argue that these people aren't of such import, but I would beg to differ. This is the future of culture. These people…

I have no judgement on these models. Everyone can make money through legal means as they deem fit. But at the same time, the immigration system historically penalized anyone who engages in prostitution and actively denied entry to people found to be engaged in it. There is an explicit question about this in all immigration forms. Which is why it’s surprising that O-1 visas are being awarded to OnlyFans models. Maybe…

If OnlyFans is not prostitution (and in my understanding it is not), then I don't see why it is surprising?

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Post by tonyhart7 »

superfrank wrote: post #10

It's funny, early on it says > The O-1 category includes the O-1A, which is designated for individuals with extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business or athletics and the O-1B, reserved for those with “extraordinary ability or achievement”. Then later it says > The O-1B visa, once reserved for Hollywood titans and superstar musicians, has evolved over the years. I understand those two aren't necessar…

basically, US Gov want to tax these ultra rich OnlyFans "model"

that's why they accept so much, the circulation of money would bring an enormous currency more than "traditional" job ever could

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Post by cwillu »

TZubiri wrote: post #18

"Whoever knowingly transports any individual in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, with intent that such individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both"

Filming porn isn't prostitution nor a sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense. Hope this helps.

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Post by nemomarx »

darth_avocado wrote: post #13
areoform wrote: post #9

Such articles are interesting because they're tacit disapproval, but I would argue that this use of the O-1 is the most American way to use it. There's a reason why Hollywood became the Earth's center of cultural gravity post-WW2, https://goldenglobes.com/articles/exiles-and-emigres-hollywo... You may argue that these people aren't of such import, but I would beg to differ. This is the future of culture. These people…

I have no judgement on these models. Everyone can make money through legal means as they deem fit. But at the same time, the immigration system historically penalized anyone who engages in prostitution and actively denied entry to people found to be engaged in it. There is an explicit question about this in all immigration forms. Which is why it’s surprising that O-1 visas are being awarded to OnlyFans models. Maybe…

how would it be interpreted as prostitution? the close analogue is porn stars right

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Post by password54321 »

jjmarr wrote: post #19
areoform wrote: post #9

Such articles are interesting because they're tacit disapproval, but I would argue that this use of the O-1 is the most American way to use it. There's a reason why Hollywood became the Earth's center of cultural gravity post-WW2, https://goldenglobes.com/articles/exiles-and-emigres-hollywo... You may argue that these people aren't of such import, but I would beg to differ. This is the future of culture. These people…

If one of America's main exports is culture, why would you ban factor inputs? They're also not fungible and extremely mobile. People get attached to specific OF stars and the medium inherently requires remote work. So it's an inherently global labour force that protectionism won't help. American OF models won't magically make more money if you ban immigration unless you also ban cultural imports. The government isn't…

...I get this is HN but come on. It is just modern day JasminCam for lonely men that are being exploited through parasocial relationships. It is the opposite of productive. You just have society feeding on itself.

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Post by magicalhippo »

Havoc wrote: post #2

OK I've got to know...which of these does OF fall under >extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business or athletics

I've seen some bedroom activities that I would definitely categorize as requiring extraordinary athletic abilities...

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Post by petterroea »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #25
superfrank wrote: post #10

It's funny, early on it says > The O-1 category includes the O-1A, which is designated for individuals with extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business or athletics and the O-1B, reserved for those with “extraordinary ability or achievement”. Then later it says > The O-1B visa, once reserved for Hollywood titans and superstar musicians, has evolved over the years. I understand those two aren't necessar…

basically, US Gov want to tax these ultra rich OnlyFans "model" that's why they accept so much, the circulation of money would bring an enormous currency more than "traditional" job ever could

I think it's fair to say with the newly evolving markets, governments are fighting to house them and tax them
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