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Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by dpoloncsak »

joshstrange wrote: post #15
dpoloncsak wrote: post #8

There's been some talk of people using Starlink to stay online. Is this a practical counter measure, or is Iran just not yet prepared to deal with them? It's my understanding Iran polices the ISPs, who aren't assigning IP addresses at this time. Iran could treat the dishes as contraband, but short of working with Starlink, is there a practical way for them to prevent satellite internet? You could flood all channels w…

They did seem to block Starlink with jamming. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46575224

Oh, missed that. Thanks!

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by dpoloncsak »

ianburrell wrote: post #19
dpoloncsak wrote: post #8

There's been some talk of people using Starlink to stay online. Is this a practical counter measure, or is Iran just not yet prepared to deal with them? It's my understanding Iran polices the ISPs, who aren't assigning IP addresses at this time. Iran could treat the dishes as contraband, but short of working with Starlink, is there a practical way for them to prevent satellite internet? You could flood all channels w…

Iran has deployed jammers for Starlink. It sounds like they got help from Russia and China. They may not be jamming Starlink directly, but GPS that Starlink needs to locate dishes. Easiest way would be to fly drones or planes around and look for the dishes. Should be possible to receive and triangulate the signals. The problem for Iran regime is that they are busy putting down the uprising.

Yeah...for sure 'bigger fish to fry'. Was just curious from a technical perspective if/how they could pull it off. Thank you!

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by andrewinardeer »

spwa4 wrote: post #5
observationist wrote: post #3

This looks like it might be the end for the current regime. There are still people getting information out, and they are tearing down and burning state buildings - around 3000 protesters killed since the crackdown began, but there appear to be tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people who have risen up against the ayatollah, with an unknown number of state forces and officials killed. Crazy start to the year.

Fingers crossed

My fingers are crossed that whatever happens post current regime that life is markedly better for the Iranian people. I'd hate to see civil war or mass starvation. Their currency has fallen off a cliff and continues to do so.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by tripplyons »

jpmattia wrote: post #12
tripplyons wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't you just be able to shield the antenna to only point up? I think that is how some aircraft stay protected from GPS jamming/spoofing, and I assume you can do something similar.

I would guess that someone is beaming a whole lot of wideband power at the satellites themselves, to overload the input receivers.

Thank you! I now realize that my analogy was misplaced due to how Starlink is bidirectional and GPS is unidirectional.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by tptacek »

andrewinardeer wrote: post #24
spwa4 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fingers crossed

My fingers are crossed that whatever happens post current regime that life is markedly better for the Iranian people. I'd hate to see civil war or mass starvation. Their currency has fallen off a cliff and continues to do so.

Same concern (although the larger concern is that we've seen this movie before, and it doesn't end well for the protesters), but you can say this about literally every overthrow of every dictatorship. The only way out is through.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by nalekberov »

submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

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Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by squidbeak »

csomar wrote: post #16
observationist wrote: post #3

This looks like it might be the end for the current regime. There are still people getting information out, and they are tearing down and burning state buildings - around 3000 protesters killed since the crackdown began, but there appear to be tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people who have risen up against the ayatollah, with an unknown number of state forces and officials killed. Crazy start to the year.

Very unlikely. Unlike Syria or Venezuela, the Iranian regime has an ideological base and a very solid base of supporters. A civil war has more odds than that base of supporters accepting a new secular regime.

Popular revolutions will sweep any ideological base away, and it appears to be underway. The scale of the protests in the clips that have made it out have been impressive.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by bpt3 »

submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

Weird, I have seen literally nothing supporting these claims at all from a remotely reliable source.

For example, it's interesting that the US would declare Jolani a terrorist if they were in support of his regime.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by zjzkshz »

submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

I don’t get the downvotes either. Everything you’ve mentioned is pretty easily verifiable and not disputed.
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