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RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by juris »

behnamoh wrote: post #9

What are we supposed to do with this information? It would have been more meaningful if the author tried the GPU card with an old machine, rather than a Raspberry Pi

personally I was interested in the capabilities of the pci-e bus as I abuse it in every other computer I can get my hands on (the rpi4 really did not like that treatment).

to your point about 'meaningful' though, indeed the ole College Try to run Crysis on a Samsung NC-10 would be far more glorious! But I assure you this was very fun for me.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by hparadiz »

azalemeth wrote: post #13
xattt wrote: post #4

> Cyberpunk barely hits 16 FPS average on the Pi 5. This is a lot better than my memories of forcing a Pentium MMX 200 MHz PC with 32 MB SDRAM and an ATI All-in-Wonder Pro of running games from the early 2000s.

I'm pretty sure I completed Morrowind for the first time ever using both wine and a celeron. Likewise before that with VirtualPC (remember that?) on Mac OS (note the space!) and Age of Empires (not even Rise of Rome!). Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

Me trying to run Falcon 4.0 on a 166 mhz P1 with 16 mb of edo ram.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by hamdingers »

drnick1 wrote: post #16

I think the conclusion here is that Raspberry Pis are now too pricey (especially when factoring in the various required accessories) and rarely make sense for typical desktop use vs. x86 mini-PCs. They make even less sense compared to various used thin clients that can generally be found on eBay.

You're paying a premium for physical compatibility with a ton of niche accessories. Whether or not they make sense depends on how important those accessories are to your use case.

That and the prices never really came back down to earth after the chip shortage hikes.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by theragra »

I have extemely weird bug where on Windows, many games crash quickly. My laptop is Lenovo legion 7i pro w/rtx4080.

I tried a lot of things, inclusing full windows reinstall, driver rollback, cleaning from dust etc etc. Crash reason is listed as "other" Nvidia driver error code.

Bazzite using Proton it works flawlessly. God of war,KCD2 and others. I guess, it will be Linux gaming for me from now on.

I am still puzzled why this situation even can be. If you have ideas, be my guest.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by theragra »

observationist wrote: post #15
matt3210 wrote: post #11

Is that a pi with a gfx card or a gfx card with a pi attached?

Yes. Also, it doesn't seem like it would be all that much more expensive for these high end GPUs to start getting x86/64 SoCs with midrange specs baked in, and these AIO GPUs could be tailor made for standalone AI and gaming applications. If it's the equivalent of a $10 bit of gear in terms of cost, they could charge an additional $100 for the feature, with a SoC optimized for the specs of the GPU - get rid of the ne…

Sounds intriguing

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by squeaky-clean »

azalemeth wrote: post #13
xattt wrote: post #4

> Cyberpunk barely hits 16 FPS average on the Pi 5. This is a lot better than my memories of forcing a Pentium MMX 200 MHz PC with 32 MB SDRAM and an ATI All-in-Wonder Pro of running games from the early 2000s.

I'm pretty sure I completed Morrowind for the first time ever using both wine and a celeron. Likewise before that with VirtualPC (remember that?) on Mac OS (note the space!) and Age of Empires (not even Rise of Rome!). Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

When I played (original vanilla) WoW I remember getting 2-3 fps in 40 player raids. The cursor wasn't tied to the game's framerate though. So with the right UI layout made from addons I could still be a pretty effective healer. I don't even remember what the dungeons looked like, just a giant grid of health bars, buttons and threat-meter graphs.

This would have been on some kind of Pentium 4 with integrated graphics. Not my earliest PC, but the first one I played any games on more advanced than the Microsoft Entertainment Packs.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by alnwlsn »

drnick1 wrote: post #16

I think the conclusion here is that Raspberry Pis are now too pricey (especially when factoring in the various required accessories) and rarely make sense for typical desktop use vs. x86 mini-PCs. They make even less sense compared to various used thin clients that can generally be found on eBay.

It would make a lousy desktop computer even if it was 10x as powerful.

- high current 5V USB power supply you probably don't have

- HDMI micro port you have like 1 cable for

- PCIe through very fragile ribbon cable + hodgepodge of adapters

- more adapters needed for SSD

- no case, but needs ample airflow

- power input is on the side and sticks out

GPIO is the killer feature, but I'll be honest, 99% of the hardware hacking I do is with microcontrollers much cheaper than a Pi that provide a serial port over USB anyways (and the commonly-confused-for-a-full-pi Pi Pico is pretty great for this)

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by embedding-shape »

theragra wrote: post #25

I have extemely weird bug where on Windows, many games crash quickly. My laptop is Lenovo legion 7i pro w/rtx4080. I tried a lot of things, inclusing full windows reinstall, driver rollback, cleaning from dust etc etc. Crash reason is listed as "other" Nvidia driver error code. Bazzite using Proton it works flawlessly. God of war,KCD2 and others. I guess, it will be Linux gaming for me from now on. I am still puzzled…

Maybe BIOS or other firmware? No clue, but my GPU also runs better on Linux that Windows today.
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