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ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by SecretDreams »

trollbridge wrote: post #18
bwb wrote: post #12

ChatGPT has made a material difference in my ability to understand health problems, test results, and to communicate with doctors effectively. My wife and I were talking last night about how helpful it was in 2025. I hope that it continues to be good at this. I want regulators to keep an eye on this and make smart laws. I don't want it to go away, as its value is massive in my life. (One example, if you are curious:…

This sounds like excellent evidentiary material for a future insurer or government health provider to decide you're uninsurable, not eligible for a job, and so on. And the great thing about it is that you already signed all your rights away for them to do this exact thing , when we could have had an open world with open models run locally instead where you got to keep your private health information private.

System working as intended!

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by jsheard »

bwb wrote: post #12

ChatGPT has made a material difference in my ability to understand health problems, test results, and to communicate with doctors effectively. My wife and I were talking last night about how helpful it was in 2025. I hope that it continues to be good at this. I want regulators to keep an eye on this and make smart laws. I don't want it to go away, as its value is massive in my life. (One example, if you are curious:…

On the other hand, sometimes you end up like this guy. Are you feeling lucky?

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/08/after-using-chatgpt-m...

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by tigerBL00D »

nusl wrote: post #8

I find it ironic that the article is warning against AI use while it uses an AI-made cover image. Surely they find the same fault with copyright issues and AI art? Right?

There's some irony in that, sure. But at the heart of the matter is privacy. It's about what you input into the chat, not about the output.

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by atmosx »

nusl wrote: post #8

I find it ironic that the article is warning against AI use while it uses an AI-made cover image. Surely they find the same fault with copyright issues and AI art? Right?

It’s not against AI. It’s against privacy issues arising though data mining & double speech.

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by wiseowise »

jsheard wrote: post #22
bwb wrote: post #12

ChatGPT has made a material difference in my ability to understand health problems, test results, and to communicate with doctors effectively. My wife and I were talking last night about how helpful it was in 2025. I hope that it continues to be good at this. I want regulators to keep an eye on this and make smart laws. I don't want it to go away, as its value is massive in my life. (One example, if you are curious:…

On the other hand, sometimes you end up like this guy. Are you feeling lucky? https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/08/after-using-chatgpt-m...

Natural selection at work. I don’t see anything suspicious here.

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by glemion43 »

jsheard wrote: post #22
bwb wrote: post #12

ChatGPT has made a material difference in my ability to understand health problems, test results, and to communicate with doctors effectively. My wife and I were talking last night about how helpful it was in 2025. I hope that it continues to be good at this. I want regulators to keep an eye on this and make smart laws. I don't want it to go away, as its value is massive in my life. (One example, if you are curious:…

On the other hand, sometimes you end up like this guy. Are you feeling lucky? https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/08/after-using-chatgpt-m...

The man in the article did not use it as a research help and did not verify it with experts.

So what's your argument?

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by SecretDreams »

LLMs for medical info are good, but they're easily abuseable. I've got a friend who is an anxious mom. They use gpt/Gemini to "confirm" all of their suspicions and justify far more doctor/medical visits than is at all reasonable, while also getting access to more recurring antibiotics than is reasonable. LLMs are basically giving them the gun powder to waste the doctor's time and slam an already stressed medical system when all their kids need most of the time is some rest and soup.

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by glemion43 »

MattRix wrote: post #9
aurareturn wrote: post #5

Do users find value in it? Thats the ultimate question. I think it is a resounding yes.

Users found value in leaded gasoline too.

Which is not a helpful argument in this discussion.

It's to blunt and feels more ignorant.

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by wiseowise »

DudeOpotomus wrote: post #6

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> Dystopian and frankly, gross. Its amazing to me that so many people are willing to give up control over their lives and in this case, their bodies, for the smallest inkling of ease.

You have to be extremely privileged to say something like this.

a) nobody is giving up control of their lives

b) get off your high horse, son

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by PunchTornado »

glemion43 wrote: post #28
MattRix wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Users found value in leaded gasoline too.

Which is not a helpful argument in this discussion. It's to blunt and feels more ignorant.

If you have nothing to say, but insult the other, better not to post.
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