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Re: A tab hoarder's journey to sanity

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I've recently migrated to Zen [0] and its a breath of fresh air.

I agree with comments arguing bad bookmark UX is part of the problem. Zen's approach is a vertical tab sidebar with workspaces and folders. Crucially, it distinguishes pinned and ephemeral tabs.

The approach is much more natural to me than either bookmarks and tradition tabs.

[0] https://zen-browser.app/

Re: A tab hoarder's journey to sanity

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post #17

It boggles my mind that, not only do people do this, but it's common . I've seen managers at work with hundreds of tabs open, with an uncanny ability to know exactly where the thing they need is. I've been using tabbed browsers for 20-something years and I never really have more than 1, 2 at a time. If I need to call something back, I either bookmark it or I open up the history and search for it.

I'm also baffled by the number of (also smart) colleagues with completely cluttered, unreadable tab bars using computers with severly degradated performance. . When a simple, clean bookmark hierarchy (under the tab bar) plus a working set of open tabs for the task at hand is so much more productive...

Re: A tab hoarder's journey to sanity

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post #17

It boggles my mind that, not only do people do this, but it's common . I've seen managers at work with hundreds of tabs open, with an uncanny ability to know exactly where the thing they need is. I've been using tabbed browsers for 20-something years and I never really have more than 1, 2 at a time. If I need to call something back, I either bookmark it or I open up the history and search for it.

Different strokes for different strokes. There is nothing wrong with how you use tabs, and nothing wrong with how others do. It is just different. The important part is that whoever can find things later that the saved for later, if the system works for you it is good. You don't even need to understand, since it is your/their personal system.

Now sometimes a different system is better. So there is nothing wrong with understanding - you might learn something that helps you. However it is optional if you are not aware of defects in what you are doing (but if you are aware of them...). Also technology marches on and so something better might come out in the future: keep an option mind.

The important part is to be slow to criticizing people who are different.

Re: A tab hoarder's journey to sanity

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Aligning with the linked post, I've found that tab hoarding is directly connected to exceedingly poor bookmark UX/UI in browsers. Despite being a core browser feature, it's barely improved in decades, with the most radical change having been Arc's decision to cut out bookmarks altogether (which I don't think is right either). Bookmark management sucks and is too high friction for my brain to willingly engage in it. T…

> Third party managers don't hit the spot either.

I've been happy with Pinboard for many years now, which does just the bare essentials. There are integrations for most browsers, though I prefer using it externally via a small CLI client. This allows me to keep a local backup of my bookmarks in JSON, to filter them with fzf/rofi, and to use it with any browser. After all, I just need to quickly find a URL, and copy/paste it in the browser.

The service has had some issues over the years, leading to growing concerns over its stability and longevity. It hasn't affected me much personally, but I've wanted to replace it with a fully self-hosted solution for a long time now. With projects like ArchiveBox, linkding, etc., this is quite feasible, though I've been lazy with making the jump. My Pinboard renewal is coming up, and I think it might be time.

Re: A tab hoarder's journey to sanity

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post #17

It boggles my mind that, not only do people do this, but it's common . I've seen managers at work with hundreds of tabs open, with an uncanny ability to know exactly where the thing they need is. I've been using tabbed browsers for 20-something years and I never really have more than 1, 2 at a time. If I need to call something back, I either bookmark it or I open up the history and search for it.

I'm also baffled by the number of (also smart) colleagues with completely cluttered, unreadable tab bars using computers with severly degradated performance. . When a simple, clean bookmark hierarchy (under the tab bar) plus a working set of open tabs for the task at hand is so much more productive...

I think it comes down to differences in how our minds work. Some require neatly organized desks while others thrive on what to others looks like a chaotic, scattered mess of unrelated documents. It's kind of hierarchal vs. spatial, and it's also one of the key differing principles between Windows-style and Mac-style desktop environments.

Re: A tab hoarder's journey to sanity

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post #21

I've recently migrated to Zen [0] and its a breath of fresh air. I agree with comments arguing bad bookmark UX is part of the problem. Zen's approach is a vertical tab sidebar with workspaces and folders. Crucially, it distinguishes pinned and ephemeral tabs. The approach is much more natural to me than either bookmarks and tradition tabs. [0] https://zen-browser.app/

Love Zen.

I am not sure it fixed my tab problem, but it improved tab management and overall efficiency.

Omnivore helped a bunch before they shut down. I need to see if any good apps exist that are similar.

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