Some speculation from friends that I was reading is that the battery could be Sodium-based, there's another battery startup in Finland using that same tech. No spec sheets though.
Donut Lab’s all-solid-state battery delivers 400 Wh/kg of energy density
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#22Re: Donut Lab’s all-solid-state battery delivers 400 Wh/kg of energy density
#23https://www.donutlab.com/nordic-nano-investment/
Their chief scientist is working on solar-powered hydrogen production, which seems fairly unrelated to solid state batteries:
https://www.nordicnano.co/chief-scientist-bela-bhuskute-will...
Though TiO2 nanoparticles appear to be relevant to battery research in general:
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#24From the donutlab page: > It can be charged to full in just five minutes without limiting charging to 80%, and supports full discharge safely, repeatedly, and reliably. From the motorcycle youtube video[1]: > delivers up to 370 miles (600 km) of range and adds up to 186 miles (300 km) in under 10 minutes One is claiming 100% in 5 minutes, and the other is claiming ~50% in 10 minutes. Why are their claims so different…
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#25But has anyone else had thoughts on how solid "solid state" batteries are?
IE could the frame of my next motorbike be made from solid state batteries?
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#26Re: Donut Lab’s all-solid-state battery delivers 400 Wh/kg of energy density
#27From the donutlab page: > It can be charged to full in just five minutes without limiting charging to 80%, and supports full discharge safely, repeatedly, and reliably. From the motorcycle youtube video[1]: > delivers up to 370 miles (600 km) of range and adds up to 186 miles (300 km) in under 10 minutes One is claiming 100% in 5 minutes, and the other is claiming ~50% in 10 minutes. Why are their claims so different…
Perhaps the problem is the size of the battery being limited in a motorcycle.
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#28No physical address, no patents, no mentions of independent testing, the whole "drag&drop OS to build EVs". Totally legit.
You can supposedly go see the bike at the Verge store at Westfield Valley Fair, 2855 Stevens Creek Blvd., Santa Clara, CA 95050-6709. That's a large mall near Apple HQ. Open until 9 PM. Someone in Silicon Valley should stop by on their way home today and take a picture. You can't just pay $35,000 and ride it away, though. They're just taking pre-orders. Still, at least you can go kick the tires and make sure it's not…
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#29No physical address, no patents, no mentions of independent testing, the whole "drag&drop OS to build EVs". Totally legit.
You can supposedly go see the bike at the Verge store at Westfield Valley Fair, 2855 Stevens Creek Blvd., Santa Clara, CA 95050-6709. That's a large mall near Apple HQ. Open until 9 PM. Someone in Silicon Valley should stop by on their way home today and take a picture. You can't just pay $35,000 and ride it away, though. They're just taking pre-orders. Still, at least you can go kick the tires and make sure it's not…
I'd want to uninstall the battery, weigh it, and run a capacity test. I doubt that they will let me.
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#30I'm very skeptical of any company that just 'pops up' and makes a bunch of claims that will shake up the industry. I doubt they'd sell to endusers, but not having any partnerships with established brands with sales figures is a big red flag. No mention of manufacturing capabilities either so I think it's just hype (or worse a rug pull for early investors)