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LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #19
jeffkumar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are my first degree connections. I don't see what's wrong with getting a list of my own connections.

What's wrong is that you're trying to violate their email privacy settings. The 5% of emails you did get are from the contacts who shared their email with you and enabled the "Allow connection to export emails" setting; the other 95% did not choose to let you export their email address, as is their right since it belongs to them.

Originally I was the one who put all the email addresses into linkedin to begin with (in fact back when I started using linkedin, you needed their valid address to link up with them). So it's my own contact info list, or was. Since I couldn't get the info back out, I ultimately deleted my linkedin account.

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by jeffkumar »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #19
jeffkumar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are my first degree connections. I don't see what's wrong with getting a list of my own connections.

What's wrong is that you're trying to violate their email privacy settings. The 5% of emails you did get are from the contacts who shared their email with you and enabled the "Allow connection to export emails" setting; the other 95% did not choose to let you export their email address, as is their right since it belongs to them.

It's on their contact page and they are a first degree connection. I can view it by going to their page.

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by jmye »

convolvatron wrote: post #15
FistfulOfHaws wrote: post #2

Similar thing happened to me. Randomly one of my LinkedIn posts got a ton of likes, so I figured I would look through the list of people who liked and try to figure out where they were coming from/if they would be interesting to reach out to. After viewing a 100 or so profiles, I was logged out of LinkedIn and when I tried to log back in my account was suspended. I was in LinkedIn jail for like a week, and when I was…

they did the same to me just by going through the job listings and x-ing out the ones that I wasn't interested in. of course for some reason that doesn't really work, the keep coming back, but wth, might as well try to keep down the noise. you have been suspended for the use of automation

An aside, but…

> of course for some reason that doesn't really work, the keep coming back

What the heck is that about? It’s deeply frustrating.

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by jmye »

bitfilped wrote: post #18
Peroni wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like it or not, LinkedIn is still by far the most used platform by recruiters (agency and internal) looking to hire. I despise the platform but it's undeniably valuable as your career progresses and the probability of being approached by a recruiter increases. Ultimately, if you're not looking for work, there's zero value in LinkedIn. Realistically, most people choose or need to look for a new job eventually and in t…

I've never needed LinkedIn in a 20 year career. I think you're way over estimating the so called "value" you get from this platform.

Because of an anecdote/data point of one? Odd take.

Networking is wildly better, but you know what makes it easier? Having a Rolodex of people I’ve worked with that shows where they’re currently at.

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

jeffkumar wrote: post #22
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong is that you're trying to violate their email privacy settings. The 5% of emails you did get are from the contacts who shared their email with you and enabled the "Allow connection to export emails" setting; the other 95% did not choose to let you export their email address, as is their right since it belongs to them.

It's on their contact page and they are a first degree connection. I can view it by going to their page.

But that's a different setting. Consent for Linkedin to show you my email does not imply consent for my email to be exported into a third party list.

Again, I think you'd benefit from researching the Cambridge Analytica scandal to understand what's going on here. There was a time when social media worked according to the intuition you're describing, where you should be able to export from the platform any information you can see on the platform, and it led to results that the public and regulators really did not like. Companies like Cambridge Analytica were able to build detailed profiles on Person X, without Person X's consent or knowledge, simply because Person Y who happened to be friends with them agreed to share data with a Facebook quiz. So now that's not how things are done.

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by kelseyfrog »

nerdsniper wrote: post #11
altairprime wrote: post #6

Record a video of yourself manually doing this, and then file a small claims lawsuit demanding they restore your access with the video submitted as proof, once they eventually lock you out. You don’t have to claim for money, you can simply claim for restoration of service, or you can indicate that if they fail to provide access to your data, that you seek damages equal to the business and personal value of your “Rolo…

To be clear: there is no legal requirement for LinkedIn to restore service. They reserve the right to deny service to anyone for any or no reason. But they might restore service even though the courts won’t “make” them.

Aren't you fairly likely to get a default judgement because they're unlikely to show up to court?

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Grimblewald wrote: post #3

Not using linked in is the solution. It's a cess pool and terrible at offering what it advertises. I have a profile where my bio starts with the fact you wont reach me on linked in and to email me instead. This works for me, but mileage my vary.

I’m sure that recruiters are going to scour the Internet looking for you.

I created my LinkIn account in 2012. By then I had been a developer for 15 years in Atlanta and knew all of the local recruiters and had met some in person. For the next 8 years, LinkedIn really didn’t serve a purpose. When I looked for a job in 2012, 2014, 2016 and 2018, I just reached out to my network and interviews and offers fell into my lap. Admittedly they were just regular old enterprise dev jobs in Atlanta.

But in 2020, things changed. AWS reached out to me about a remote position in the consulting department (ProServe full time with the standard four year package) and after that my last two jobs have been based on either targeted outreach on LinkedIn where I was an industry expert in a niche of AWS that most people don’t have (2023) or an internal recruiter reaching out to me on LinkedIn 2024.

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

bitfilped wrote: post #18
Peroni wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like it or not, LinkedIn is still by far the most used platform by recruiters (agency and internal) looking to hire. I despise the platform but it's undeniably valuable as your career progresses and the probability of being approached by a recruiter increases. Ultimately, if you're not looking for work, there's zero value in LinkedIn. Realistically, most people choose or need to look for a new job eventually and in t…

I've never needed LinkedIn in a 20 year career. I think you're way over estimating the so called "value" you get from this platform.

I have gotten plenty of value out of the platform - including BigTech companies reaching out to me. One offer I accepted and where I worked for almost four years paying way more working remotely than I could have made locally.

My last two jobs have also come from LinkedIn. Exactly how am i supposed to find remote jobs?

And I have been working for 30 years…

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

bitfilped wrote: post #20

Are you going to reach out to 200 people? I imagine only 1-2 of them can actually significantly advance your career in any meaningful way. Wouldn't your time be better spent cultivating relationships with those 1-2 peole rather than collecting data on 200 people who you're realistically not going to see any return from?

I can just put “Open To Work” as my status on LinkedIn and my entire network of former coworkers abs recruiters know I’m looking.

Re: LinkedIn Prevents You from Deplatforming

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Post by jeffkumar »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #25
jeffkumar wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's on their contact page and they are a first degree connection. I can view it by going to their page.

But that's a different setting. Consent for Linkedin to show you my email does not imply consent for my email to be exported into a third party list. Again, I think you'd benefit from researching the Cambridge Analytica scandal to understand what's going on here. There was a time when social media worked according to the intuition you're describing, where you should be able to export from the platform any information…

I understand the problem with building a caricature of other people, but when it comes to your own contact email list on a platform, you should be able to access that. Essentially, not being able to download that is away for them to prevent you from de-platforming. I argue, that they aren't truly trying to safeguard against automation, that's a disguise for trying to prevent you from de-platforming because then they can't monetize as well if you become independent and use your own direct outreach for your customer list. I'd hope they would have the best intentions, but this process has lead me to believe otherwise.
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