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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by PeterStuer »

christkv wrote: post #16
PeterStuer wrote: post #9

BS. A used (not available new) 5800X3D is 350€, while a new 9800X3D is around 460€.

I think its the memory price checked and 32gb of ddr4 is a 170 eur while same size kit in ddr5 is over 400 now. If you want to build a cheap 1080p 1440p gaming desktop it all adds up.

The article claims "Second-hand prices for the 5800X3D average around $500-$600 on eBay. Some of the highest-selling units sold at nearly $800, showing how desperate some buyers are to buy AMD's best gaming chip that still uses DDR4 memory"

This is absurd. "Average quoted" on ebay does not mean anything, neither dors their claim of "highest selling" which is "highest listed". Nobody is buying at these prices.

People buy the lowest priced (incl. Shipping) with modifiers for professional>private, seller review rating, location and picture/description quality.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by Asmod4n »

tetraodonpuffer wrote: post #5
AdrianB1 wrote: post #3

Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3…

5800x3d / 5700x3d are MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than non-x3d in some games that are CPU bound (for some even 2x / 3x faster than non-x3d) so even with a "slower" GPU it can still be a large upgrade

when you game in 4K thats only relevant for games like factorio or city skylines.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by alecco »

Hikikomori wrote: post #17
alecco wrote: post #8

Be careful with these older boards. Some might be PCIe 3.0 making your GPU and NVMe dog slow.

Doesn't matter for gaming at least.

NVIDIA models 4060/5050/5060 have only 8 PCIe lanes. Combine that with PCIe 3.0 and it becomes a problem.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by kittikitti »

The people that predicted this face a dilemma. They were ridiculed when their forecast was against popular opinion and now they are ostracized because they were right. I've seen this happen to many researchers in AI and it's demoralizing.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by Asmod4n »

tylerflick wrote: post #4
AdrianB1 wrote: post #3

Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3…

> 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter It’s impossible to keep my 5800x below 90C under full load.

Mine runs at 60C when running Prime95 at full load, i got a open bench case though.

The 7000 series is designed to hit those loads, i wonder how your 5000 series can even reach that.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by justsomehnguy »

alecco wrote: post #8

Be careful with these older boards. Some might be PCIe 3.0 making your GPU and NVMe dog slow.

Not a problem for MWLL - it's still the Crysis engine anyway.

But seriously, claiming "dog slow" is certainly an overstatement. You lose some of the top performance, not below - and it's still ~4/16GB/s

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4

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Post by atomicthumbs »

PeterStuer wrote: post #21
christkv wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think its the memory price checked and 32gb of ddr4 is a 170 eur while same size kit in ddr5 is over 400 now. If you want to build a cheap 1080p 1440p gaming desktop it all adds up.

The article claims "Second-hand prices for the 5800X3D average around $500-$600 on eBay. Some of the highest-selling units sold at nearly $800, showing how desperate some buyers are to buy AMD's best gaming chip that still uses DDR4 memory" This is absurd. "Average quoted" on ebay does not mean anything, neither dors their claim of "highest selling" which is "highest listed". Nobody is buying at these prices. People…

eBay Seller Research shows that the average sold price for a 5800X3D has increased by about $100 in the past 30 days, from ~$360 to ~$460.
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