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Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by fsflover »

Silhouette wrote: post #17
fsflover wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternatively, GNU/Linux phones can be used. But not all banks support them, of course.

Not all banks, government services, travel and ticketing systems, and the list goes on. The unfortunate reality is that we have a duopoly in the mobile device market and having one of those devices are now a practical necessity to live a normal life for most people. Without regulation to force the market to open up there's little to stop organisations that want ever more control over the devices you can use to access…

You're not wrong, but I'm trying to raise the issue with any service forcing me into the duopoly by showing them my Librem 5. Sometimes it's quite entertaining. This is another venue for making the change.

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by wackget »

mindcrash wrote: post #16

All the while Android users - or at least those on the Samsung Galaxy sub-ecosystem - are happily downloading free, as in open source, software from alternative sources like F-Droid ( https://f-droid.org/ ), Obtainium ( https://obtainium.imranr.dev/ ), Accrescent ( https://accrescent.app/ ), and even can access the main app store through a more privacy friendly way using Aurora ( https://auroraoss.com/ ) - although w…

You forgot to mention Google's upcoming developer verification push, which will prevent users installing apps - even from third-party sources - if the developers have not verified their identity with Google:

https://developer.android.com/developer-verification

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by mindcrash »

wackget wrote: post #22
mindcrash wrote: post #16

All the while Android users - or at least those on the Samsung Galaxy sub-ecosystem - are happily downloading free, as in open source, software from alternative sources like F-Droid ( https://f-droid.org/ ), Obtainium ( https://obtainium.imranr.dev/ ), Accrescent ( https://accrescent.app/ ), and even can access the main app store through a more privacy friendly way using Aurora ( https://auroraoss.com/ ) - although w…

You forgot to mention Google's upcoming developer verification push, which will prevent users installing apps - even from third-party sources - if the developers have not verified their identity with Google: https://developer.android.com/developer-verification

They already announced side loading will continue to work, while making it slightly more difficult for average users to install suspicious crap on their phone or tablet. I can live with that:

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-power-users-install...

Also, how sideloading works seemingly varies from vendor to vendor. On my Samsung devices I never had to fiddle with ADB or developer mode to install a APK from outside the Play store, I just download something, toggle crapware protection off, install, toggle crapware protection on and I'm done. Think it might has something to with all the customization work Samsung put into One UI (and just outright removing stuff from Google they didn't like).

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by ZeroConcerns »

Silhouette wrote: post #19
ZeroConcerns wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, indeed, thank you! Fixed now, but, well... abbreviation fatigue takes its toll...

Even with the fix that's still not really accurate - though it's a widespread misconception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Directive

No, it's now entirely accurate. Nothing in the GDPR requires 'cookie banners', and your Wikipedia link doesn't 'dispell' that 'misconception', but nice try...

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by schubidubiduba »

wackget wrote: post #22
mindcrash wrote: post #16

All the while Android users - or at least those on the Samsung Galaxy sub-ecosystem - are happily downloading free, as in open source, software from alternative sources like F-Droid ( https://f-droid.org/ ), Obtainium ( https://obtainium.imranr.dev/ ), Accrescent ( https://accrescent.app/ ), and even can access the main app store through a more privacy friendly way using Aurora ( https://auroraoss.com/ ) - although w…

You forgot to mention Google's upcoming developer verification push, which will prevent users installing apps - even from third-party sources - if the developers have not verified their identity with Google: https://developer.android.com/developer-verification

Google has already backpedaled on that, luckily.

But you are right, insofar that it likely is only a matter of time until Google's walled garden is as walled in as the one of Apple.

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by schubidubiduba »

charcircuit wrote: post #18

Give people an inch and they will want a mile. I hope Apple resists these bullies who feel entitled to use all the hardwork Apple put into building their platform.

You got it the wrong way around: Apple feels entitled to use all the hard work developers put into their apps to bolster their own pockets.

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by troupo »

Silhouette wrote: post #19
ZeroConcerns wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, indeed, thank you! Fixed now, but, well... abbreviation fatigue takes its toll...

Even with the fix that's still not really accurate - though it's a widespread misconception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Directive

ePrivacy Directive doesn't require those obnoxious banners either

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by saubeidl »

charcircuit wrote: post #18

Give people an inch and they will want a mile. I hope Apple resists these bullies who feel entitled to use all the hardwork Apple put into building their platform.

The bully here is Apple. They try to use their market power to put themselves above our law, but they shall not get away with it.

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by troupo »

charcircuit wrote: post #18

Give people an inch and they will want a mile. I hope Apple resists these bullies who feel entitled to use all the hardwork Apple put into building their platform.

You've mixed up your bullies.

It's Apple which is the bully.

Re: Devs say Apple still flouting EU's Digital Markets Act six months on

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Post by troupo »

saubeidl wrote: post #28
charcircuit wrote: post #18

Give people an inch and they will want a mile. I hope Apple resists these bullies who feel entitled to use all the hardwork Apple put into building their platform.

The bully here is Apple. They try to use their market power to put themselves above our law, but they shall not get away with it.

Not just above law, but above common sense as well
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