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LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by Neywiny »

bromuro wrote: post #17
Neywiny wrote: post #2

As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

I have poor eyesight and I don’t support this practice of linking old reddit on HN. Old website is unusable for me. I have to load the link in the native app to read it. ctrl+F doesn’t work anyway as the comments are also buried in a “load more comments” on old reddit too. New website and app have a search comments field.

While true some are hidden, old shows a *lot* more and most of my searches for obscure issues don't yield more viral posts

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by phoronixrly »

newsoftheday wrote: post #10
abbycurtis33 wrote: post #5

Until somebody releases a dumb TV, you just can't connect your tv to the Internet.

Our LCD TV is almost 2 decades old. If we upgrade, I can guarantee we won't be connecting it to the Internet. Also none of our smart appliances are connected to the Internet.

I think you underestimate how shameless the vendors can be. I imagine in a couple of years the TVs will refuse to function unless periodically connected to the Internet to get updated ads and an updated firmware so that you can't jailbreak them...

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by Gualdrapo »

bromuro wrote: post #17
Neywiny wrote: post #2

As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

I have poor eyesight and I don’t support this practice of linking old reddit on HN. Old website is unusable for me. I have to load the link in the native app to read it. ctrl+F doesn’t work anyway as the comments are also buried in a “load more comments” on old reddit too. New website and app have a search comments field.

I agree. I joined reddit when the "new" design was launched - I could never made sense of the old design. Way too cluttered and unreadable.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by LeonM »

some-guy wrote: post #19
newsoftheday wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our LCD TV is almost 2 decades old. If we upgrade, I can guarantee we won't be connecting it to the Internet. Also none of our smart appliances are connected to the Internet.

I am actually surprised at how well our second TV (Samsung) still looks [0] after 17 years. We inherited from my sister who bought it for some ridiculous amount of cash for the time. It’s heavy and runs hot, but doesn’t look any worse than cheap TVs of the same size today. [0] https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/samsung-touches-lcds...

I bought the top of the line TV from Samsung in 2011. The 'smart' functionality services went offline after a year or two, which means all 'smart' functions no longer work and I am now happily using it as a dumb TV.

Eventually every smart TV becomes dumb when they inevitably shut down the backend services.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by ezst »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #18

Is there a DNS filtering list anywhere that just blocks these firmware updates? That would be the easiest way to maintain dumbification without getting into hacking the software while still allowing streaming services.

Till yourself get hacked because the connected-to-the-internet TV is running an insecure software version. We should legal action the hell out of such practices.

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Post by rationalist »

bromuro wrote: post #17
Neywiny wrote: post #2

As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

I have poor eyesight and I don’t support this practice of linking old reddit on HN. Old website is unusable for me. I have to load the link in the native app to read it. ctrl+F doesn’t work anyway as the comments are also buried in a “load more comments” on old reddit too. New website and app have a search comments field.

> Old website is unusable for me.

New website is unusable for me.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by jitl »

We need a Framework-style company making TVs.

Get the OLED panels from whoever makes them wholesale, spend on a beautiful enclosure / design, add just enough software to calibrate the image and switch between HDMI inputs with HDMI-CEC. Sell a premium soundbar as an add-on instead of including speakers in the base device.

I think a brand like Sonos could make a killing in this market selling a premium dumb tv to high end customers.

Look at how much markup Samsung adds to their standard LCD panel for a decent enclosure - it’s like $600-$1000 markup to get the Frame tv, which has a mid panel, JUST because the enclosure is actually nice/inoffensive.

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