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Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by jamilton »

floren wrote: post #7
Avicebron wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case the "writing system" is the set of typos that would occur when someone with an English and Korean keyboard layout forgets to switch off English and keystrokes what they expect would be the Korean. "Midjourney" is "alemwjsl" in that typo writing system

No I mean how do you never come across "transliteration", is that really such an unusual word?

Yeah, I think it's an uncommon word. It's not a concept that would come up for most American English speakers, unless you're in a community that uses a language with another writing system (I think I first encountered it in a synagogue with Hebrew) or you're learning such a language.

I think I've maybe occasionally seen "translit." in text used to mark that the following is transliterated, but I could see that being easily glossed over.

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by ta8884844 »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #20
yongjik wrote: post #12

> Turns out that somehow Midjourney is so commonly searched for, that Google has started serving them in search results for a meaningless English phrase that just means a Korean forgot to switch off of their English keyboard when searching for. BTW, this happens all the time in Korea, because it's extremely common for someone to type something while forgetting to switch to the correct input method. Try these, for exa…

It gets even better! EBS (한국교육방송 Educational Broadcasting System) is using "듄 dyun " as one of its brands, which is one of such mis-transliterated words. Cyworld [EDIT: got confused], a once-popular SNS in Korea, once went by "쵸재깅 chyojaeging " in the similar way. (Both words have absolutely no meaning in Korean, suggesting that it was transliterated from QWERTY to a Hangul keyboard layout.)

I think you meant Cyworld instead of Tistory.

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by LeoPanthera »

This is very similar to the Google Trends results for "frqnce":

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=frqnce&h...

You'll notice it peaks every northern hemisphere summer. On French keyboards, Q and A are reversed compared to US keyboards, and every summer, millions of French people go on vacation, and start Google searching for things back home on unfamiliar keyboards.

It declines with the rise of the smartphone, as they're bringing their keyboards with them.

Why it suddenly spikes in the last few years, I don't know.

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by xp84 »

> branded keywords aren't that great to run ads on anyway, you pretty much get all the traffic from them anyway since that's what the user wanted anyway, you don't really have to pay for it.

Haven’t finished the article yet but this jumped out at me. This doesn’t ring true to me. Google runs an extortion scheme - since you can buy ads on your competitors’ trademarks, and since no users can tell ads from results (and since the organic results are now buried so far, they rarely get clicks anyway) if you don’t buy your brand keywords your competitors will get all your traffic.

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by janalsncm »

> It's actually insane the levels of understanding the algorithms that are responsible for serving us information have and how little we, the creators of said algorithms, understand what's going on in said algorithms.

As others have said, keyboard mismatches are common enough that Google might have built out logic for it specifically. But thats not necessary and even “old school” search engines could learn these things.

The first time “alemwjsl” is searched you might not have any data, but the user will probably fix their keyboard and retype in Korean. That gives you a query correction mapping. And you can assume if query1 yields no clicks and they update to query2, q1 is a synonym for q2 and serve results for q2 instead.

Then, if a session contains a query “alemwjsl” and a click on midjourney.com and another session “midj” also contains a click on midjourney.com, those are co-clicked queries.

You can also even start to represent queries by the words in their associated clicked documents or vice versa. This helps to get around the fact that people might search “how much superbowl tickets” and “superbowl tickets price” but the official page might not contain either of those strings.

Of course there’s more advanced methods now (neural nets) but it’s cool to see how it worked in the past.

https://www.kdd.org/kdd2016/papers/files/adf0361-yinA.pdf

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by FeteCommuniste »

The Greek string υοθτθβε (meaningless and nearly unpronounceable, would sound roughly like "eeohtht-thveh") will get you YouTube as the top search result because those letters are what you get from typing "YouTube" with your keyboard set to Greek mode, at least on Windows.

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by r_lee »

yongjik wrote: post #12

> Turns out that somehow Midjourney is so commonly searched for, that Google has started serving them in search results for a meaningless English phrase that just means a Korean forgot to switch off of their English keyboard when searching for. BTW, this happens all the time in Korea, because it's extremely common for someone to type something while forgetting to switch to the correct input method. Try these, for exa…

and for the people that don't know, its not just because they forgot to switch, sometimes it's just faster, e.g. YouTube search also recognizes Hangul sequences in Latin if you type them out

you can also swear in a comedic way by just typing the Hangul sequence in Latin e.g. tlqkf

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by andoando »

floren wrote: post #7
Avicebron wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case the "writing system" is the set of typos that would occur when someone with an English and Korean keyboard layout forgets to switch off English and keystrokes what they expect would be the Korean. "Midjourney" is "alemwjsl" in that typo writing system

No I mean how do you never come across "transliteration", is that really such an unusual word?

I only know it because Im bilingual

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by karmasimida »

anyfoo wrote: post #11

This is actually pretty common. It's less obvious with Chinese or Japanese, as the input method there usually matches the transliteration based on how the word is spoken (romaji in Japanese, pinyin in Chinese), which of course does not look unusual. For example, you wouldn't think twice about it if for the Japanese word for washing machine, you not only saw "洗濯機" (which is how it's written in Kanji), but also "sentak…

Hangul is its own alphabet and has its own keyboard, so the letters typed don't have correlation with typical romanization scheme at all.

It is probably more like bopomofo keyboard for Chinese

Re: Midjourney is alemwjsl

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Post by sshine »

anyfoo wrote: post #11

This is actually pretty common. It's less obvious with Chinese or Japanese, as the input method there usually matches the transliteration based on how the word is spoken (romaji in Japanese, pinyin in Chinese), which of course does not look unusual. For example, you wouldn't think twice about it if for the Japanese word for washing machine, you not only saw "洗濯機" (which is how it's written in Kanji), but also "sentak…

With Chinese you have 简拼 (jiǎnpīn) for your pinyin input, which lets you type only the initial Latin letters of a common phrase to complete the phrase.

For example, instead of typing “buzhidao” to get 不知道, you just type “bzd” and pick the top suggestion. Since all the phonetic endings are gone, it does look a little cryptic, but it means if you don’t have a pinyin keyboard, you can still type something fast that is highly correlated with your actual phrase.

For example when you’re searching a movie title on your SmartTV; teenage mutant ninja turtles (similarly abbreviated tmnt) becomes rzsg; some Chinese search tools will pick up on this; whether through statistics, fuzzy matching or specific 简拼 (jiǎnpīn) support, I don’t know.

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