Lol.
I know what the comments will be.
And the US is one of the top immigrant countries in the world. Always worth reflecting why people choose that when there is greener gras.
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#23There are much better places in the world to move to than the Netherlands
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#24Leaving now is the best way to ensure things get worse. If you've given up, your vote no longer counts and your voice no longer matters.
It’s a classic prisoners dilemma - if everyone starts to run, you’d better be the first because it is going to be a bloodbath.
Better for everyone to stay and fight.
But the issue right now is, everyone is stopping anyone from fighting.
So isn’t the fight already lost? If so, back to step 1.
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#25Leaving now is the best way to ensure things get worse. If you've given up, your vote no longer counts and your voice no longer matters.
If the boat is sinking, I wouldn't stay on.
Back in 1930s Germany, there were other boats afloat to escape to.
Here in 2025, you live in a globalized world. The rats are soon to be out of ships to flee to. There's no free society in the Sol system that survives rampant and unchecked authoritarianism in the triad of the US, China, and Russia. Europe is a military vassal of the first, an economic vassal of the second, and an energy vassal of the third (though increasingly of the first two). By all means, I'm happy for Europe to wake up and prove me wrong, but looking at their tepid reaction to being invaded by Russia three years ago I'm not holding my breath.
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#26Went for dinner with a Parisian friend of mine. He spent a good amount of it complaining that Paris is unrecognizable from his youth. Too many Americans, everywhere!
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#27To learn how to leave USA one needs to pass the newyorker paywall.
Recently seeing lots of paywalled articles on HN that quickly get tens of upvotes before they get any comments.
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#28Reëlection?
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#29Leaving now is the best way to ensure things get worse. If you've given up, your vote no longer counts and your voice no longer matters.
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#30To learn how to leave USA one needs to pass the newyorker paywall.
Follow-up paywalled article: How to enter the USA