Didn't M8g just come out? Am I crazy?
Not crazy. They just have a pretty rapid release cadence for Graviton. New chips ~ every two years.
Amazon EC2 M9g Instances
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#22Awhile back I was researching cloud instances for performance, And I noticed that AWS didn't have the latest generations of AMD/Intel. Which are far superior to Graviton 4. It seems obvious to me that AWS using their market dominance to shift workloads to Graviton.
>Which are far superior to Graviton 4.
Not if you are looking at price/performance. AWS could be taking a loss to elevate the product though, no way to know for sure.
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#23Is there a list of Geekbench performance metrics for the various Graviton CPUs?
I need a reference point so I can compare it to Intel/AMD and Apple's ARM cpus.
Otherwise it is buzzwords and superlatives. I need numbers so I can understand.
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#24In Amazon's Graviton 5 PR they note that over half of all new compute capacity added to AWS over the past three years has been Graviton-based. That's an amazing stat.
It really is incredible how ARM basically commoditized processors (in a good way).
Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances
#25Awhile back I was researching cloud instances for performance, And I noticed that AWS didn't have the latest generations of AMD/Intel. Which are far superior to Graviton 4. It seems obvious to me that AWS using their market dominance to shift workloads to Graviton.
This sort of makes sense. If there is no competitive advantage in buying the latest AMD or Intel CPUs, why buy them when you can just deploy a generic (ARM licensed) CPU at cheaper prices.
The competitive advantage right now is in NVIDIA chips and I guess AWS needs all their free cash to buy those instead of non-competitive advantage CPUs.
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#26Is there a list of Geekbench performance metrics for the various Graviton CPUs? I need a reference point so I can compare it to Intel/AMD and Apple's ARM cpus. Otherwise it is buzzwords and superlatives. I need numbers so I can understand.
https://instances.vantage.sh/ shows coremark scores for each EC2 instance type.
Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances
#27In Amazon's Graviton 5 PR they note that over half of all new compute capacity added to AWS over the past three years has been Graviton-based. That's an amazing stat. It really is incredible how ARM basically commoditized processors (in a good way).
Inversely, I think it's siloed things in somewhat unhealthy ways. We now have a number of vendors that sell/rent you machines that are not generally purchasable. I don't think we've seen too many negative consequences yet, but if things continue in this direction then choosing a cloud provider for a high performance application (eg, something you'll want to compile to machine code and is therefore architecture specific in some way as opposed to a python flask app or something), one may have to make decisions that lock one into a particular cloud vendor. Or at least, it will further increase the cost of changing vendors if you have to significantly tweak your application for some oddities between diff arm implementations at different hosting providers, etc.
I would much rather see some kind of mandatory open market sale of all cpu lines so that in theory you can run graviton procs in rackspace, apple m5 servers in azure, etc.
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#28If only dedicated game servers could run on aarch64... I've been experimenting FEX on Ampere A1 with x86 game servers but the performance is not that impressed
Doesn't help that Unity requires forking over a pile of cash just to build for Linux ARM ("Embedded Linux") and everything else is free.
Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances
#29In Amazon's Graviton 5 PR they note that over half of all new compute capacity added to AWS over the past three years has been Graviton-based. That's an amazing stat. It really is incredible how ARM basically commoditized processors (in a good way).
Inversely, I think it's siloed things in somewhat unhealthy ways. We now have a number of vendors that sell/rent you machines that are not generally purchasable. I don't think we've seen too many negative consequences yet, but if things continue in this direction then choosing a cloud provider for a high performance application (eg, something you'll want to compile to machine code and is therefore architecture specif…
Graviton CPUs are just Neoverse cores (V3 in this case). While it’s true that you can’t just buy a box with the same cores, the cores are basically the same as what you’ll get on a Google or Azure cloud instance (eventually… the latter two have yet to make available anything with Neoverse V3 yet).
Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances
#30Is there a list of Geekbench performance metrics for the various Graviton CPUs? I need a reference point so I can compare it to Intel/AMD and Apple's ARM cpus. Otherwise it is buzzwords and superlatives. I need numbers so I can understand.
While the 5 variant isn't yet available outside of the preview, you can of course spin a 4 up and run geekbench yourself. Plenty of people have and you can find them in the GB DB. And of course most people spin up their specific workload to see how it compares.
Core per core it pales compared to Apple's superlative processors, and falls behind AMD as well.
But...that doesn't matter. You buy cloud resources generally for $/perf, and the Graviton's are far and away ahead on that metric.