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TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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I think this was already discussed recently, but I find this quote in the article very interesting: "Passengers don't listen, a lot of them think the TSA is a joke. The fines are a way to enforce the rules for the REAL ID," the former TSA officer told TheTravel. I've got one very concrete reason why I do think the TSA is a joke. They list a Veterans Affairs health ID card as valid ID even after this new Real ID rule.…

The TSA is a joke. The whole thing is security theater.

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can a VA health ID card be considered a valid ID? Maybe a supplemental ID, but I can't imagine it would be allowed as a primary ID for TSA screening.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification It’s right there, last bullet point. Typically, in the states, veterans are presumed to be less of a safety risk and receive preferential treatment at all sorts of venues.

But the entire point of the law is to prevent you from pretending to be somebody you aren't. So this defeats the purpose, unless the whole thing is security theater... which it is.

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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I think this was already discussed recently, but I find this quote in the article very interesting: "Passengers don't listen, a lot of them think the TSA is a joke. The fines are a way to enforce the rules for the REAL ID," the former TSA officer told TheTravel. I've got one very concrete reason why I do think the TSA is a joke. They list a Veterans Affairs health ID card as valid ID even after this new Real ID rule.…

TSA is a joke.

I've gone through more than one airport where TSA had someone yelling at everyone to keep their shoes on ... then like 20 feet later an angry TSA guy yelling at people things like "haven't you ever flown before, take off your shoes".

I dared mention that the other TSA agent up the line was telling people something different ... TSA just ignored me.

And what is the delay in those lines? It's always the scanner speed, not the people. People are usually rushing, and then just stand there and wait.

TSA operates like elementary school hall monitors all too often.

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Am I missing something obvious? What's the "fine print" that punishes a family of 4 more than a group of 4 friends? I can't find that information anywhere in the article despite it being the entire point of the headline.

That's how I read it, it is a per person fee.

I agree I read it as being the same cost for 4 individuals.

There is a 10 day window so both groups could end up paying on the way back too.

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Question from a European: I assume that most people flying within the US would use their driver's license as ID. Given how long this "REAL ID" standard has been in effect, why have the non compliant IDs not expired yet? Do some states not issue REAL ID compliant licenses?

(Apologies if this is a stupid question, I'm not familiar with how these things work in the US)

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Question from a European: I assume that most people flying within the US would use their driver's license as ID. Given how long this "REAL ID" standard has been in effect, why have the non compliant IDs not expired yet? Do some states not issue REAL ID compliant licenses? (Apologies if this is a stupid question, I'm not familiar with how these things work in the US)

In my state you still have a choice to pay more for a REAL ID, or just get a plain old drivers license.

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Question from a European: I assume that most people flying within the US would use their driver's license as ID. Given how long this "REAL ID" standard has been in effect, why have the non compliant IDs not expired yet? Do some states not issue REAL ID compliant licenses? (Apologies if this is a stupid question, I'm not familiar with how these things work in the US)

In my state you still have a choice to pay more for a REAL ID, or just get a plain old drivers license.

Are there some onerous requirements for REAL IDs which require it to be more expensive, or is this a short-sighted money making scheme for the states?

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Question from a European: I assume that most people flying within the US would use their driver's license as ID. Given how long this "REAL ID" standard has been in effect, why have the non compliant IDs not expired yet? Do some states not issue REAL ID compliant licenses? (Apologies if this is a stupid question, I'm not familiar with how these things work in the US)

States will give you a real ID if you can prove you are a US citizen. This article is covertly trying to argue for easier travel for illegal aliens

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my state you still have a choice to pay more for a REAL ID, or just get a plain old drivers license.

Are there some onerous requirements for REAL IDs which require it to be more expensive, or is this a short-sighted money making scheme for the states?

To get a real ID you need to prove your citizenship, which is usually some combination of your birth certificate and/or passport or other IDs. Not really a big deal

Re: TSA's New $45 Fee at U.S. Airports Unfairly Punishes Families in the Fine Print

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In many states a RealID costs $40 and is good for 5 years; if the info/vetting process is the same then the $45 fee should come with an ID good for five years or more

The TSA is not a joke, it’s a sleeper cell. Wait for the ICE-TSA collusion a bit longer and a $45 fee won’t save you from being the wrong color

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