What I want is some hardware that, if Linux stops working on it, it's someone's job to fix that. Which is why I'm strongly considering a Steam Cube.
What about Framework? They support Fedora and Ubuntu: https://frame.work/fr/en/linux
People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
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Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#22What I want is some hardware that, if Linux stops working on it, it's someone's job to fix that. Which is why I'm strongly considering a Steam Cube.
The great thing about open source is that there’s always at least one person who can take on the job of fixing your obscure hardware problem…you.
The terrible thing is that you are probably unqualified to do driver surgery without taking on more work than the problem is worth to you to fix.
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#23Funny a the stats he points to show a smaller number of devices being recorded each time. So of course the percentage would go up. There are still more Windows devices in active use compared to all MacOS/iOS devices.
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#24"By my count"... Which means pretending that every single "unknown" desktop, which is a larger percentage than the Linux desktops, are Linux. And also by considering ChromeBooks, which also have a larger percentage than Linux, are Linux.
Until ChromeOS get its own OS (wasn't it supposed to be in 2019?), it's still a Linux.
Google has been working on Fuchsia, a new open source OS which in theory can replace Linux as the base of ChromeOS and Android
But it is unclear how committed they still are to this. Some suggest it was just a “keep our options open” project or a “stop smart people from doing it for our competitors” project. They are actually using it in anger on their Nest Hub devices, but we don’t know if they still plan to take it any further than that
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#25Why? I’ve been using Unix workstations since the motif days through gnome whatever, but and every single one has seemed clunky as heck compared to the contemporaneous windows. Win 11 file explorer is 20 years ahead of nautilus. Not to mention all of the other windows perks like HiDPI & multi-monitor scaling polish, rdp, vastly superior accessibility, … And you can run wsl2 if you need to.
funny, windows 11's explorer has been the most infuriating experience for me over the years in all my personal and workplace machines (hangs, wont preview whatever files it decides doesnt want to, slow context menu startup, and many more) and frankly one of the reasons I've been daily driving kde+dolphin. I'd say I miss the out of the box cloud integration (you can install kio plugins but theyre not in a good state now. Dropbox have their own dolphin plugin as well), but I really couldn't care less when weighing in everything else. multimonitor support in kde wayland is just as good. Actually, its better, since you can control monitor brightness without a external program like Monitorian. wsl2 has some quirks if you're using a company VPN but overall pretty solid. Accessibility really is a pain point for linux in general
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#26I've been hearing about how Linux is going to replace Windows for at least 2 decades now. I expect it to finally happen some time after we get 'too cheap to meter' fusion power.
SPARC is scheduled to start operations in 2026, with the goal of demonstrating net power in 2027.
I really hope they are successful. But I'm not holding my breath.
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#27“Microsoft president Pavan Davulur tweeted on Nov. 10 that ‘Windows is evolving into an agentic OS, connecting devices, cloud, and AI to unlock intelligent productivity and secure work anywhere” Apple could probably run a Mac vs PC billboard on this tweet alone.
Apple could, but this is more or less their tagline[1], as well. Granted, I think Apple has slightly better execution, but that's pretty subjective, I suppose. 1. https://www.apple.com/os/macos/
There a single toggle setting for Apple Intelligence in MacOS (currently toggled as 'off' on my machine)
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are built on Linux fundamentals but are miles away from being a _Linux desktop_.
Oh right they are a Linux laptop.
Honestly we could consider Chromebook just as Android. Yes technically they run on Linux kernel but there is so much going wrong. It's far from what everyone think when saying Linux desktop.
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#29What I want is some hardware that, if Linux stops working on it, it's someone's job to fix that. Which is why I'm strongly considering a Steam Cube.
The great thing about open source is that there’s always at least one person who can take on the job of fixing your obscure hardware problem…you. The terrible thing is that you are probably unqualified to do driver surgery without taking on more work than the problem is worth to you to fix.
Yeah, with two small kids, the last thing I want to spend my spare time doing is playing with drivers. I want things that just work.
Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows
#30I switched to Linux in the past month.
First, I installed GNOME based Fedora 43, that was a mistake. I got it working "somewhat" like Windows, with Dash to Panel etc. widgets, but stability was not there after all the hacks.
Then I figured I try KDE Plasma, and this is so close to Windows that I made the switch permanent. Even little things like double-clicking on top, or bottom resize handle vertically maximizes the window, like in Windows.
KDE is not just better than Windows, but it is way more configurable out of the box. I really like window rules, which allows to set window locations, always on top settings for specific Chrome PWAs or other windows. KDE Settings panel is light years ahead of Windows, it has all the settings in one place, kind of like the old Control Panel.
There is rough spots, but not that many... I did end up buying AMD GPU, as with Nvidia GPU I had bunch of bugs.
I wanted to switch to Linux for a long time now because Windows Subsystem for Linux just wasn't good enough, it was mediocre. All the development happens with tools that have bash scripts as a glue. Windows was a hindrance at this point for me.
Right now I'm trying to learn to write small native Wayland GUI apps that use minimalish amount of memory, this is a bit tricky compared to Win32, but with new toolkit libraries pretty doable.