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The author is ignoring a phenomenon that is so closely related I would just call it the same thing: interacting isn't necessary.
Just mentioning that a problem is likely to occur is, in general, enough to get you blamed for causing the problem.
> You try to save them. You succeed, but break their rib doing CPR. Legally: they can sue you. Morally: "was that level of force really necessary?"
Many countries have legal safeguards against these kinds of suits.
> You watch someone drown. You do nothing. Legally: no liability. Morally: "tragic, but not your fault."
And many countries have legal safeguards against not helping.
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It's the same in France with "Non assistance à personne en danger” literally ”Not helping someone in danger" and the assistance expected is proportional to your immediate ability. A doctor who would not try to help someone injured is liable for example. There are precedents. Weird use of "the West" here.
This law is specific to situations of imminent or actual physical harm. Also notice the way the law is formulated: non-assistance (negative) and not a an explicit duty to assist (positive).
The article mentions but doesn't seem to link to https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/QXpxioWSQcNuNnNTy/...
> You try to save them. You succeed, but break their rib doing CPR. Legally: they can sue you. Morally: "was that level of force really necessary?"
Both legally and morally, yes that level was necessary as ribs routinely break during CPR.
Yes, CPR breaks ribs as a routine thing https://www.cprcoursebrisbane.com.au/does-cpr-break-ribs/#el... legal standards acknowledge that fact and moral ones should too.
Also, duty to help does exist all over the "west". And even where it does not exist, good samaritan laws are not merely a sidenote, they in fact protect people when providing help.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the same in France with "Non assistance à personne en danger” literally ”Not helping someone in danger" and the assistance expected is proportional to your immediate ability. A doctor who would not try to help someone injured is liable for example. There are precedents. Weird use of "the West" here.
I grew up in the West (Australia) - for locals it's almost unthinkable that you wouldn't help someone that needed a hand, eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YORxs9E2Ex0 is unremarkable save for the fact that the rest of the world thought it unusual. Many people are members of volunteer organisations, SES (Search and Rescue), St. John's (Ambulance and medical first responce), VFRS (Volunteer Firefighters) etc.
Many year later in life I lived in Manhattan, where you could literally have a frail old lady being beat up in front of a crowd of grown men and everyone would either pretend they didn't see anything or at most pull out their phones to record it.
I don't know what my old town is like today, but a few years ago I was on a bus in Latin America far from any large cities and a pickpocket robbed someone, the passengers on the bus seized the guy, beat him up, striped him naked, and the bus driver slowed down and opened the door while they shoved him out onto the curb.
I'm choosing to translate "the system" here as the entrenched bureaucracy that has grown up in the Western world in the last century.
More patriotic leaders have emerged where elections remain meaningful, and those leaders are ruthlessly attacked by "the system".
Which is an ironically non-passive behavior mode.
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I grew up in the West (Australia) - for locals it's almost unthinkable that you wouldn't help someone that needed a hand, eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YORxs9E2Ex0 is unremarkable save for the fact that the rest of the world thought it unusual. Many people are members of volunteer organisations, SES (Search and Rescue), St. John's (Ambulance and medical first responce), VFRS (Volunteer Firefighters) etc.
I think this varies quite a lot from one location to another. I grew up in an impoverished town in the US south. When I was a kid if your car broke down, a stranger would stop to at least give you a ride or possibly even try to repair it on the spot. If you so much as threatened a woman in public you could expect to have a number of men immediately step in to confront you. Many year later in life I lived in Manhattan…
The article mentions but doesn't seem to link to https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/QXpxioWSQcNuNnNTy/...
That explains weird generalization to "west" when it deals with America only problem and even there severely exaggerates the issue. Author seems to base their opinions on movie version of the world. > You try to save them. You succeed, but break their rib doing CPR. Legally: they can sue you. Morally: "was that level of force really necessary?" Both legally and morally, yes that level was necessary as ribs routinely…