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Re: Memories of .us

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I didn’t realize how far these had fallen out of fashion. I maintained http://kenn.cr.k12.ia.us for a time, and it was so hard to remember that domain (scarcely easier than an IP address) until I tried to understand it. It’s now kennedy.crschools.us.

Re: Memories of .us

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post #9

> Technically speaking, the top of the DNS tree, the DNS root, is a null label referenced by a trailing dot. It's analogous to the '/' at the beginning of POSIX file paths. "gatech.edu" really should be written as "gatech.edu." to make it absolute rather than relative I have never seen this, but I just tried it and it seems like browsers, even today will happily handle such URLs. Neat!

They need to, as when the "." is not present, your search domains are used, but they are not used when the trailing "." is present.

For example, if you enter "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com", and your search domains contain one item called "mycompany.tld", then the browser will first query DNS servers for "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com.", and when an NXDOMAIN is returned, they will try "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com.mycompany.tld." next. If you type "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com." in the browser directly, only the first query is attempted.

Re: Memories of .us

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Norway we have kommune.no for municipalities. For example: - Oslo https://www.oslo.kommune.no/ the largest municipality in terms of population, and home of Oslo the capital of Norway - Utsira http://www.utsira.kommune.no/ the smallest municipality in terms of population with just 217 people per 2025. - Nordkapp https://www.nordkapp.kommune.no/ home of the famous Nordkapp (North Cape) And there is vgs.no for High S…

country wide like that must be a bit of a pain for local web admins for those municipalities to make changes through the bureaucracy of government DNS/registrar keyholders. I have a friend who works for a university web services and adding any subdomain takes months to a year+ with committees, boards, meetings and approvals they have to go through first

Oslo Commune will have control of oslo.kommune.no, i.e. there are DNS records pointing to the commune's DNS server.

It's no different to administer than if they had oslokommune.no.

(Just like dealing with bbc.co.uk is no different to administer than bbc.com.)

Re: Memories of .us

#24
Cloudflare refuses to accept most locality based domains as delegated because they aren’t listed in the Public Suffix List[1]. So for example you can’t use Cloudflare DNS or get a TLS cert for it from them.

Fortunately they seem to be one of the few (only?) providers who does that. So use another DNS provider and Letsencrypt and you’re good to go.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Suffix_List

Re: Memories of .us

#25

It did always make me really annoyed they didn’t deprecate .gov, .edu and .mil and transition to moving those under .us (as .gov.us, .edu.us and .mil.us). Having them as basically US-only just reeks of American exceptionalism which most of the world finds very distasteful.

I wonder if some anti-“west” military alliances are eligible to get their own .int just like nato.int

There's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_with_.in...

I don't see why a non-western military alliance wouldn't be eligible, so long as the meet the criteria — treaty registered with the UN etc.

Re: Memories of .us

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post #21

I didn’t realize how far these had fallen out of fashion. I maintained http://kenn.cr.k12.ia.us for a time, and it was so hard to remember that domain (scarcely easier than an IP address) until I tried to understand it. It’s now kennedy.crschools.us.

My high school is still at www-bths.stjohns.k12.fl.us, and if it wasn’t embedded in my fingertips from working IT there I’d have no idea how anyone is supposed to remember it.

Re: Memories of .us

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Absolutely fascinating history. I thought I knew DNS fairly well and I had no idea that locality-based domains were even a thing.

Ah, what happened to the site design? It used to have a lovely background and monospace text.

Re: Memories of .us

#28
post #2

Subdivided geographic TLDs are still common in Ontario govts, such as gov.on.ca [1] and tdsb.on.ca for Toronto schools.[2] Both are still in common use. [1] https://kagi.com/search?q=site%3Agov.on.ca&r=ca&sh=lUDz_I8Uq... [2] https://kagi.com/search?q=site%3ATDSB.on.ca&r=ca&sh=jysEnEgZ...

Australia does the same for organizations regulated at the state level, like schools. However, while all other states/territories do $SCHOOL.$STATE.edu.au:

https://www.abbotsfordps.vic.edu.au/

https://southperthps.wa.edu.au/

https://perthprimary.education.tas.edu.au/

https://nthadelaideps.sa.edu.au/

https://www.nightcliffprimary.nt.edu.au/

https://www.forrestps.act.edu.au/

NSW uses $SCHOOL.schools.nsw.gov.au:

https://innersydneyhighschool.schools.nsw.gov.au/

And Queensland for some bizarre reason uses "eq" ("Education in Queensland", apparently) instead of the standard "qld":

https://townsvillesouthss.eq.edu.au/

Re: Memories of .us

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post #21

I didn’t realize how far these had fallen out of fashion. I maintained http://kenn.cr.k12.ia.us for a time, and it was so hard to remember that domain (scarcely easier than an IP address) until I tried to understand it. It’s now kennedy.crschools.us.

I did sysadmin work for both a .k12.oh.us and a co.countyname.oh.us. Users at both hated the suffix on email addresses. The hierarchy appeals to the nerd in me but I understand the difficulty people had trying to communicate the addresses to others. (Both now use a .com and .gov domain, respectively...)
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