Paul Hegarty's updated CS193p SwiftUI course released by Stanford

Post by canyp » Sun, Nov 30, 2025, 7:05 PM UTC

windows_hater_7 wrote: post #21

canyp wrote: post #17

I am surprised that a university with the renown of Stanford would have a course specifically on "the fundamentals of how to build applications for iPhone and iPad using SwiftUI." Not even mobile UI/UX, or UI/UX principles in general; straight up yolo iOS. How do people not find this absolutely egregious? At my uni, we organized protests for much smaller intrusions of corporate interests into education. Is Stanford n…

> Is Stanford not much better than a bootcamp these days? Rage-bait? Universities are criticized for not providing enough economic value and real job training, yet when they do, they are labeled corporate shills.

Post by GeekyBear » Sun, Nov 30, 2025, 7:36 PM UTC

greentea23 wrote: post #16

neilv wrote: post #7

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When I was in school, the corporate shill language was MATLAB, and even today not every program has moved on to greener pastures (Python/numpy, Julia). But doesn't Swiftui support Android now? https://github.com/skiptools/skip , I'm extremely skeptical and critical of anything Apple does, and I don't like programming languages without critical mass of community and corporate contributers, but seems like Swift is goin…

Post by wahnfrieden » Sun, Nov 30, 2025, 7:43 PM UTC

GeekyBear wrote: post #24

greentea23 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was in school, the corporate shill language was MATLAB, and even today not every program has moved on to greener pastures (Python/numpy, Julia). But doesn't Swiftui support Android now? https://github.com/skiptools/skip , I'm extremely skeptical and critical of anything Apple does, and I don't like programming languages without critical mass of community and corporate contributers, but seems like Swift is goin…

Swift is a cross-platform compiled programming language that offers memory safety as a tentpole feature. SwiftUI is a platform specific API for developers who are writing native apps for that platform. You can think of Swift as being similar in concept to Rust and SwiftUI as being similar in concept to Win32.

Post by mikeyk » Sun, Nov 30, 2025, 8:45 PM UTC

bbrmaley wrote: post #19

mikeyk wrote: post #4

I took CS193P when it was first offered in 2007; one of my favorite classes at Stanford because it was so hands-on. At the time few people had iPhones, so everyone in the class got a free iPod Touch for development. My final project was a photo sharing app with a Polaroid shake to reveal mechanic… lightly influenced Instagram which Kevin and I built a few years later!

how did course exist in 2007 ? App Store and sdk was released in 2008

Post by GeekyBear » Sun, Nov 30, 2025, 9:18 PM UTC

wahnfrieden wrote: post #26

GeekyBear wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Swift is a cross-platform compiled programming language that offers memory safety as a tentpole feature. SwiftUI is a platform specific API for developers who are writing native apps for that platform. You can think of Swift as being similar in concept to Rust and SwiftUI as being similar in concept to Win32.

SwiftUI is also now an API for writing Android native apps, too. I don't know why you skipped over that part? It's maybe like when Google rewrote Java. Win32 is a bad comparison because there's no Win32-compatible API for native apps on other platforms (that I know of?) except for emulation, but the Android SwiftUI project is not using emulation, it runs the code natively and the result is native Android UI.