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PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Noticed SSDs went up too. There's a "black friday" sales price for a 4TB crucial external drive that's at its highest price in 90 days. Bad time if you need to build a computer.

RAM prices are cyclical. We are in the under supply part of the cycle.

People just have to wait. As prices are sky high, production capacity will likely increase. Some AI companies will go bust. Demand will plummet and we will buy RAM for pennies while the market consolidates.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Did Sam Altman buy out all gaming RAM?

No, but the factory capacity and raw materials needed to make that gaming dram is now under higher demand to make stuff like gddrx and hbm.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Did Sam Altman buy out all gaming RAM?

If a Bond villain bought all of the oil in the Middle East, would it affect prices in the US? (Yes, of course it would.)

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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When did a PS5 become a unit of cost? For reference seems to be about 0.002 London buses

Seems like an American thing. We measure distances in football fields and volumes in olympic pools, seems we now measure money in PS5s. It tracks...

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Potentially unpopular take: memory manufacturers have been operating on the margins of profitability for quite a while now. Their products are essentially an indistinguishable commodity. Memory from Samsung or Micron or another manufacturer may have slight differences in overclockability, but that matters little to folks who just want a stable system. Hopefully the shortage leads large purchasers to engage in long-te…

Well, what really prompted this crisis is AI, as well as Samsung shutting down some production (and I have to say I don't think they mind that the pricing has skyrocketed as a result!)

But yes we're going to need more fabs for sure

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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It will be interesting to see the knock on effect of some upcoming consumer electronics; for example Apple was rumored to be working on a cheaper MacBook that uses an iPad CPU, and Valve is working on a SteamOS based gaming machine. Both will likely live/die based on price .

edit: looks like i had the wrong understanding, thanks to the comments below for explaining ~~~~~helps that Apple's SoC has the RAM on the main die itself. They're probably immune from these price hikes, but a lot of the PC/Windows vendors would, which would only make Apple's position even stronger~~~~

How does that make a difference? It's not like the price change is on DIMMs. The price change is on the DRAM, which is a commodity item. It's not like someone is going to discount it if you tell them "nah, I'm going to solder this one to my SoC".

If Apple is insulated it is likely because Apple signs big contracts for large supply and manufacturers would prefer to be insulated from short-term demand shocks and have some reliability that their fabs can keep running and producing profitable chips.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Did Sam Altman buy out all gaming RAM?

LLM models are voracious consumers of RAM for the top full power models so yes, not directly but they're all consuming massive amounts of the production capacity of memory makers it's impacting the 'gaming RAM' market too. They're not separate markets just because the end use is slightly different.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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It will be interesting to see the knock on effect of some upcoming consumer electronics; for example Apple was rumored to be working on a cheaper MacBook that uses an iPad CPU, and Valve is working on a SteamOS based gaming machine. Both will likely live/die based on price .

edit: looks like i had the wrong understanding, thanks to the comments below for explaining ~~~~~helps that Apple's SoC has the RAM on the main die itself. They're probably immune from these price hikes, but a lot of the PC/Windows vendors would, which would only make Apple's position even stronger~~~~

Which Apple product is this? Memory dies and logic dies require entirely different factories to make, so I doubt this SoC exists.
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