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Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

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Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

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Post by trotsky »

relies on

  your phone working
  2.4 Ghz
  your internet connection
  your power
  their datacenter
  their website software
to avoid carrying a key?

anyone in the area could easily ddos off your wireless more or less permanently by spamming disconnect.

doesn't seem like a very good risk/reward ratio to me.

whats the problem with a more traditional (read local) keyless approach? door too thick?

Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

#22

Post by bartonfink »

nine_k wrote: post #16
showerst wrote: post #2

Neat idea, but what makes this worth 150 bucks?

Value? Enough people are happy to pay $150 for it. Things should never be priced based on actual expense unless your margins are infinitely slim.

I certainly wouldn't pay $150 for that, and was asking myself the same ?. It's not going to appreciably increase the value of my home, so an argument that it's home improvement doesn't hold water for me. It doesn't seem to have that much hardware, which would help me understand the price point even if I still wouldn't pay for it.

It simply doesn't solve a problem I have, and at $150, I'm not likely to give it a shot to see if locking my doors manually is really that much of an inconvenience (I doubt it is). I might pay $50, but even then that's a stretch because, as I said, it doesn't solve a problem I've got.

Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

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Post by plusbryan »

bluetidepro wrote: post #17

So, do people who use something like this just never lock your bottom handle lock? I live in a busy city and lock both to keep my place secure. I'm not sure I would like just being able to lock the deadbolt but not the handle lock.

Having taken a lock picking course, I can say that one lock is approximately the same security as two - even after 15 minutes of instruction, with the right tools I could unlock most any standard house lock in moments.

Home door locks are a deterrent more than anything else, so I'd opt for convenience.

Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

#25

Post by peterwwillis »

showerst wrote: post #2

Neat idea, but what makes this worth 150 bucks?

If you've never lost your house keys twice ($75 per visit for a locksmith) then it's not worth it. However, you could give multiple people access to the door this way, which would be cheaper/easier than making copies of keys.

Also, with normal keys if you lose one you have to replace the cylinder and all the keys if you're worried about someone using the lost key. This would prevent that expense.

I will say, though: if $150 is the discount price, i'm afraid to learn what the regular price is. Businesses seem like the only place this becomes cost effective.

Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

#26

Post by [deleted] »

trotsky wrote: post #21

relies on your phone working 2.4 Ghz your internet connection your power their datacenter their website software to avoid carrying a key? anyone in the area could easily ddos off your wireless more or less permanently by spamming disconnect. doesn't seem like a very good risk/reward ratio to me. whats the problem with a more traditional (read local) keyless approach? door too thick?

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Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

#27

Post by bluetidepro »

plusbryan wrote: post #23
bluetidepro wrote: post #17

So, do people who use something like this just never lock your bottom handle lock? I live in a busy city and lock both to keep my place secure. I'm not sure I would like just being able to lock the deadbolt but not the handle lock.

Having taken a lock picking course, I can say that one lock is approximately the same security as two - even after 15 minutes of instruction, with the right tools I could unlock most any standard house lock in moments. Home door locks are a deterrent more than anything else, so I'd opt for convenience.

Oh, okay. That's actually really interesting, I had no idea. Haha Thanks! :)

Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

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Post by RandallBrown »

bluetidepro wrote: post #17

So, do people who use something like this just never lock your bottom handle lock? I live in a busy city and lock both to keep my place secure. I'm not sure I would like just being able to lock the deadbolt but not the handle lock.

My handle doesn't have a lock. I only have a deadbolt.

I also have an RFID fob to get in my building and I need to type a code in to my elevator to get to my floor, so I'm not too worried about it.

Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

#29

Post by plusbryan »

psychotik wrote: post #24

Why not use a lock with a keycode instead? I don't see a single scenario where Lockitron works better. http://consumer.schlage.com/Products/Pages/category-landing....

For me, it'd be about guest access. Sure, you could give out your codes, and then change them later, but that's a pain (with the Schlage products at least).

Re: Lockitron: Keyless entry using your phone

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Post by apawloski »

trotsky wrote: post #21

relies on your phone working 2.4 Ghz your internet connection your power their datacenter their website software to avoid carrying a key? anyone in the area could easily ddos off your wireless more or less permanently by spamming disconnect. doesn't seem like a very good risk/reward ratio to me. whats the problem with a more traditional (read local) keyless approach? door too thick?

To be fair (I share some of your hesitance), the old-fashioned key still works, so if for some reason one of these dependencies was unmet, then you're not totally out of luck.
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