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Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level

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Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level

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Post by moritzwarhier »

Klaster_1 wrote: post #2

Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45667866 Personally, I find this a move in the wrong direction where hostile behavior by websites is normalized and hidden. Cookie banners show web site true colors. When someone asks me to share data with a thousand of "partners", I leave.

I think I agree, at least until it's clear how exactly this should be implemented.

Fingerprints can be shared with third parties without cookies, and while I know that the so-called "cookie law" is not really just about cookies, this is where the deception begins.

For some reason, I think it's easier to force websites to list everyone they share data with, than to force them to comply with an invisible preference that says "don't share data".

It even sounds as if this could be a trojan horse to dismantle parts of the GDPR altogether (see the DNT references in this thread...), and I happen to think that by and large, GDPR is good.

Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level

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Post by naIak »

mkmk3 wrote: post #13
naIak wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The choice citizens would make every single time is to see the website without ads. Of course, publishers aren’t happy about that, since they would have to close shop. Maybe the EC should consider both sides of the equation.

False dichotomy, just advertise based on the content of the site without spying on people

Loaded language, it can’t be “spying” if the user consents.

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Post by lol768 »

thrance wrote: post #7

In the meantime, if you're browsing the web with uBlock Origin, you should definitely enable cookie list filters in Dashboard > Filter lists > Cookie Notices. Haven't seen a banner in ages.

This occasionally causes breakage though; because many cookie notices open up modal dialogs and disable scrolling.

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Post by [deleted] »

troupo wrote: post #20

"Europe's cookie nightmare" has nothing to do with Europe and everything to do with companies assuming that they have god-given right to all your data in perpetuity. Things like "precise location information stored for 12 years": https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1817122117093056541 Europe literally said: we're not going to force specific tech decisions on you. All we ask is to let people opt-in if they want to be tracke…

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Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level

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Post by deafpolygon »

MangoToupe wrote: post #6
avmich wrote: post #4

> This is not a real choice made by citizens This is something which courts should consider more about other things, such as EULA and Terms and Conditions. Same reasons.

Are EULAs even enforceable?

they are generally thought to be, but require litigation- which is a problem for the general population!

corporations have enough money to tie you up in court with lawyers.

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