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The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by tomtom1337 »

simondotau wrote: post #19
tomtom1337 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the ikea zigbee devices going to stop being sold? Massive shame if so, they are extremely reliable and easy to use.

IKEA's whole smart home ecosystem is presently being overhauled from Zigbee to Thread/Matter, with a product availability gap in the meantime. https://www.ikea.com/global/en/newsroom/retail/the-new-smart...

Oooh, thank you for sharing! New product lineup looks interesting, but I echo other concerns here about it thread maybe eventually requiring internet.

Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by knob »

andrepd wrote: post #20
gruturo wrote: post #14

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Oh cool it's not just me doing exactly this. Sticking to pure zigbee devices with zigbee2mqtt and slae.sh's excellent USB coordinator. A couple weeks ago I bought a bunch of spare IKEA zigbee devices before they go out of stock. Around 2030 I'll take a look if thread/matter is anywhere near mature and has settled.

Side question but where would one learn how to do this that way? Any guides, reddit? The home automation market seems such a mess every time I check it out.

Feed that comment into an ai (claude suggested). Let it know what you have, and just work out a "numbered list roadmap". Love ais for that!

Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by yuumei »

codeflo wrote: post #16
hobofan wrote: post #12

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> Threads You mean "Thread"? Or "Matter over Thread", which some vendors also just call "Matter" (which technically can also stand on it's own, but in many cases implies a Thread requirement). I'm wondering if that muddiness in bad communication will be a significant factor in hindering consumer adoption.

"Matter" can in practice also mean "Matter over Wi-Fi", and lots of vendors use it that way.

That’s my issue with it: iot devices shouldn’t have access to the internet by default. With Matter it’s possible. No one is going to create outbound firewall rules for these things.

Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by samoit »

hobofan wrote: post #10
samoit wrote: post #3

I hope Matter becomes the "the facto" standard... now we have several more "standars"

> the facto *de facto Any reason you prefer Matter rather than Zigbee? Zigbee has been a thing far longer than Matter, so I don't think the "one more standard" criticism is valid here.

It is supposedly an open source standard that do not requires internet connection to work, and can use regular wifi (2,4ghz) networks as a means to connect devices so you do not need to buy a hub for them. You can create your own hub with a mini pc for instance with a regular wifi card. No need for specific hardware

Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by [deleted] »

samoit wrote: post #25
hobofan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the facto *de facto Any reason you prefer Matter rather than Zigbee? Zigbee has been a thing far longer than Matter, so I don't think the "one more standard" criticism is valid here.

It is supposedly an open source standard that do not requires internet connection to work, and can use regular wifi (2,4ghz) networks as a means to connect devices so you do not need to buy a hub for them. You can create your own hub with a mini pc for instance with a regular wifi card. No need for specific hardware

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Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by gunalx »

samoit wrote: post #25
hobofan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the facto *de facto Any reason you prefer Matter rather than Zigbee? Zigbee has been a thing far longer than Matter, so I don't think the "one more standard" criticism is valid here.

It is supposedly an open source standard that do not requires internet connection to work, and can use regular wifi (2,4ghz) networks as a means to connect devices so you do not need to buy a hub for them. You can create your own hub with a mini pc for instance with a regular wifi card. No need for specific hardware

All of this can be done with ZigBee. It is open and local mesh over 2.4ghz.

Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by petre »

indolering wrote: post #26

Any particular advantage to Suzi over Thread? Why didn't they adopt an IP based standard that is interoperable with ... all major networks since ~1995 (if not before)?

Multiple reasons like not enough v4 IPs, devices being able to sleep most of the time to conserve power, security cameras and IoT devices getting hacked and faling prey to by botnet operators etc.

Re: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

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Post by darkwater »

simondotau wrote: post #19
tomtom1337 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the ikea zigbee devices going to stop being sold? Massive shame if so, they are extremely reliable and easy to use.

IKEA's whole smart home ecosystem is presently being overhauled from Zigbee to Thread/Matter, with a product availability gap in the meantime. https://www.ikea.com/global/en/newsroom/retail/the-new-smart...

I just bought some spare pieces (remotes, bulbs) just in case
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