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A new documentary about the history of forced psychiatric treatment in Spain

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Isn’t that relatively normal? They’re really easy to make.

The ‘throw molotov cocktails’ are mentioned in the same sentence as ‘hand out leaflets’, which makes me feel the surrounding people were generally not panicking about the fire. Hard to say without reading the book though.

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I can only hope I would have done the same in Franco's dictatorship. But I'd have expected prison rather than a convent.

Its not that simple. I do not know about Franco's Spain, but violent rebellion does not usually make things better. Most violent revolutions end up replacing one dictatorship with another.

> Most violent revolutions end up replacing one dictatorship with another.

Don’t those new violent dictators also tend to be more aligned with the people revolting?

Anyway, it kinda makes sense to me that the people advocating for change through violent means don’t suddenly stop being violent when they get to power.

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I can only hope I would have done the same in Franco's dictatorship. But I'd have expected prison rather than a convent.

Parents don't want their kids executed or sentenced to life in prison because they ended up burning people to death. And there is no way to ensure arson only burns fascists. They were probably desperately looking for a way to save her from that. Can't say I'd have done the same choice, but it makes it more understandable.

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A familiar story even today in the U.S: https://time.com/6997172/teen-torture-max-abuse-documentary/ “They are often a last resort for parents struggling with children with behavioral problems, suicidal thoughts, and substance abuse issues. Depending on the state, these rehab centers—a multi-billion-dollar industry—have few regulations, and there are no overarching federal standards governing them. Many are faith-bas…

If anybody wants to read a comic with the perspective of someone that went through one of these places and spent the years after fighting against them, I stumbled upon this one a few years ago: https://elan.school/

I am not in any way affiliated with the author, it's just one of the few books with real content that I've read in a long time.

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Do you think "My mum was a 17-year-old free spirit - so she was locked up and put in a coma" could perhaps be the words of the person they interviewed? Could this perhaps by why it is written in the first-person? Where in the article does the BBC claim she was an "ordinary free-spirited girl"?

What do you believe the purpose of this article is? Do you think it is advancing a policy agenda, in which case which policies is it advocating for? Or is it perhaps just documenting what happened and the impressions of those effected by what happened?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only hope I would have done the same in Franco's dictatorship. But I'd have expected prison rather than a convent.

Its not that simple. I do not know about Franco's Spain, but violent rebellion does not usually make things better. Most violent revolutions end up replacing one dictatorship with another.

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Isn’t that relatively normal? They’re really easy to make. The ‘throw molotov cocktails’ are mentioned in the same sentence as ‘hand out leaflets’, which makes me feel the surrounding people were generally not panicking about the fire. Hard to say without reading the book though.

no

throwing molotov cocktails is in NO way "normal"

Re: A new documentary about the history of forced psychiatric treatment in Spain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only hope I would have done the same in Franco's dictatorship. But I'd have expected prison rather than a convent.

Its not that simple. I do not know about Franco's Spain, but violent rebellion does not usually make things better. Most violent revolutions end up replacing one dictatorship with another.

Even when it's gone really badly, like the Russian revolution, the revolution was a huge improvement.

80% illiteracy. I think revolutions almost always go well because you usually have to be really terrible to cause one to happen.

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I spent some time in Northern Ireland in 2001 (Derry mostly). At one point there was a sudden fire in the back yard of the youth hostel I was staying at. When I mentioned it, the owner of the youth hostel said "it's just a Molotov cocktail".
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