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Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by peterbecich »

userbinator wrote: post #19
jfim wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a scalding hazard though. At 70°C skin burns occur in about a second or so. The thermostatic valve makes it so that the water that comes out of the water heater is at a more reasonable temperature.

It's supposed to be HOT water, not lukewarm... I have my water heater set to 150F because it makes the hot water last longer, especially in the winter when the incoming supply is barely above freezing, but that doesn't make the tank bigger.

I think what this "smart tank" does is mix the super-hot with cold.

If the automatic mixing feature malfunctions to super-hot, then it could be risky...

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by stavros »

jfim wrote: post #10
elcomet wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this sounds disingenuous. I can also see my heater to 70C if I want, that does not increase its size...

It is a scalding hazard though. At 70°C skin burns occur in about a second or so. The thermostatic valve makes it so that the water that comes out of the water heater is at a more reasonable temperature.

I was surprised at how cold "hot" water actually was. I thought it was 60-70, but apparently what feels "hot" is around 45-50. Especially for me, that finds anything beyond my shower's "middle" heat as uncomfortably hot, I must be showering with around 40 C water, which is basically "hot day" hot.

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by phil21 »

The best investment in my comfort and upgrading my home was two redundantly configured Navien continuous water heaters.

Never worry about running out of hot water ever again. If I’m gone on a trip for 2 weeks my hot water bill is zero. Due to having overcapacity, whenever I have guests staying with me no one ever has to worry about simultaneously using showers or any other hot water at all. I run out of water pressure before I do heating capacity.

If one breaks I just schedule a repair or replacement for weeks in advance and have to limit folks to 2 simultaneous showers at any given time. Hasn’t happened yet.

I will never go back to a tank based water heater unless outright forced into it. It’s one of those “TiVo like” upgrades to your lifestyle you never knew you needed until you have it.

Certainly not cheap, but also not prohibitively expensive if you can find a competent installer who doesn’t overcharge.

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by netsharc »

itopaloglu83 wrote: post #20

Technology Connections have a video about how water heaters work in detail and how much power can be saved by strategically turning them off when not needed. https://youtu.be/Bm7L-2J52GU However, the website has some weird vibes as well, like why would you say something like below? > And some just want Dad Mode for when your teenager needs to finish that shower.

There's several layers of humor in TC videos, the cringe joke, the acknowledgement that "I'm making a cringe joke", the acknowledgement that the joke is still lame with the meta-joke, the "well I put it in the video anyway, aren't I funny?".

But the end result makes me cringe after all.

Edit: oh, you're talking about this product website...

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by gmac »

phil21 wrote: post #23

The best investment in my comfort and upgrading my home was two redundantly configured Navien continuous water heaters. Never worry about running out of hot water ever again. If I’m gone on a trip for 2 weeks my hot water bill is zero. Due to having overcapacity, whenever I have guests staying with me no one ever has to worry about simultaneously using showers or any other hot water at all. I run out of water pressur…

Is this unusual in the US? I think almost everyone in the UK for years has been installing ‘combi’ boilers, which are ones that heat the water in radiators and also heat water on-demand.

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by rdtsc »

$6.5k for a water heater? Does it make coffee and give back massages?But seriously, is it going to recoup the extra 4.5$ in 10 years or so or however often people replace water heaters.

And hopefully the smart part is not relying on external connections or services. Otherwise next time the cloud service goes down you end up taking cold showers, both figuratively and literally.

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by schainker »

These data mining companies really take us for chumps.

Pay EXTRA for a water heater that collects data on when you shower, how much water you use, and at what temperature, so that they can sell that that to someone who wants to serve you a towel ad on your smart fridge screen after you get dressed.

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

netsharc wrote: post #24
itopaloglu83 wrote: post #20

Technology Connections have a video about how water heaters work in detail and how much power can be saved by strategically turning them off when not needed. https://youtu.be/Bm7L-2J52GU However, the website has some weird vibes as well, like why would you say something like below? > And some just want Dad Mode for when your teenager needs to finish that shower.

There's several layers of humor in TC videos, the cringe joke, the acknowledgement that "I'm making a cringe joke", the acknowledgement that the joke is still lame with the meta-joke, the "well I put it in the video anyway, aren't I funny?". But the end result makes me cringe after all. Edit: oh, you're talking about this product website...

Yeah, that was a sneaky one on my part.

One thing I learned from the video was how do water heaters get away with giving higher capacity numbers than they actually have. Well, apparently, kind of like air, hot water also rises and the heater keeps working while in use and it also has secondary heater element it can switch to, so it can follow the cold-hot water separation line.

Re: Reservoir: Smart electric water heater

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Post by schainker »

Color me skeptical but the lack of mention about data privacy on that website screams this to me:

Pay EXTRA for an over engineered water heater whose company sells your data about how much water you use, when you use it, and at what temperature, so that costco or someone can serve you a towel ad on your smart fridge screen after you get dressed or do the dishes.

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