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Ford CEO says he has 5k open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries

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Six figure hourly-wage "salaries", as long as you put in the 20 hours overtime every week. He also didn't mention the swing shift going from 2 weeks on 3rd, 2 weeks on 2nd, 2 weeks on 1st, and repeat. We can probably find a bunch of other anti-worker issues if we look into it. He also suggests it takes 5 years of education to learn to take out an engine. You're better off getting a college education in that time. Or…

> No future. No advancement, No life.

Honestly starting to feel the same way about developing software.

Re: Ford CEO says he has 5k open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries

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> Still, part of the problem for the shortage of manufacturing jobs is the lack of education and training, according to Farley. He noted, for example, learning to take a diesel engine out of a Ford Super Duty truck takes at least five years. The current system is not meeting the standard, he added. Sounds like Ford's #1 problem is failure to train its engineers, in how to design reasonably maintainable vehicles.

Many modern cars are not designed to be easily worked on. I think the priority is ease/cost of initial assembly, only. My 2010 Mercedes had headlight bulbs that died frequently. But there was no way for a human to reach in and replace them, without either some special tool or disassembling a bunch of stuff at the front of the car. Just one example. You can find many similar complaints elsewhere.

Last maintenance I did on my Volvo was to replace the battery which should be quick for a non-mechanic as myself.

I spent more time building a make shift tool to detach/attach the battery than I did actual work. This due to them placing a bolt really bad so you can't access it with a normal wrench.

Not offering a paid upgrade to a 4G modem for the app features when they kill the 3G network in Sweden is also a bummer (they do in the US though, guess they are afraid of law suits).

I like the car in general, but they do some bad decisions that make me look at other brands when considering a new car.

Re: Ford CEO says he has 5k open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries

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post #4

Six figure hourly-wage "salaries", as long as you put in the 20 hours overtime every week. He also didn't mention the swing shift going from 2 weeks on 3rd, 2 weeks on 2nd, 2 weeks on 1st, and repeat. We can probably find a bunch of other anti-worker issues if we look into it. He also suggests it takes 5 years of education to learn to take out an engine. You're better off getting a college education in that time. Or…

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Re: Ford CEO says he has 5k open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Net worth: 30 million. He can easily finance a small trade school as a pilot project on his own, without shareholder approval. So does he think it has ROI or no?

Why should he do that? He isn’t the owner of Ford. What if he gets fired like his predecessor?

Either he thinks it’s a worthwhile pursuit or he doesn’t.

If his point is that it’s only worthwhile when the public subsidizes the cost, then he’s just yet another rent-seeking millionaire looking to profit off the taxpayer’s dollar at no risk to either himself or Ford.

Re: Ford CEO says he has 5k open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries

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Dude is out of his gourd if he believes mechanics are making 6 figures without doing crazy overtime. Just because a job posting is advertised up to 6 figures doesn't mean they will actually offer you such a wage. I live in Michigan and am from a family of mechanics and 95% of mechanics never break $100K ever.

He is also extremely ignorant if he thinks it takes 5 years to learn how to take an engine out of a vehicle, people get PhDs in 5 years, and I could teach someone to remove and replace a certain vehicle's motor in a few days at worst including most of the tips and tricks when things don't go smoothly, after a year I would expect them to be able to take out any motor from any vehicle without guidance. Taking a motor out of a vehicle is one of the easier parts of a mechanic's job, the hard part is being able to diagnose problems without tearing the entire motor out before you know it needs to, or figuring out how to fix a problem without tearing apart every nut and bolt on the car per the official repair, especially as a dealership mechanic where you only get paid a set minimum price for each job no matter how long it takes you in reality. Sure a brand new vehicle might have bolts that spin off in 10 seconds, but the crusty rusted out car from Michigan salted roads might require torches to remove it or time to extract a broken bolt, or drilling and tapping and helicoiling a stripped hole. Even if the hourly labor was free, the parts that either MUST be replaced once bolts are pulled and seals broken, or will inevitably be broken in the process of removal no matter how careful you are, still cost money.

Re: Ford CEO says he has 5k open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries

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> Still, part of the problem for the shortage of manufacturing jobs is the lack of education and training, according to Farley. He noted, for example, learning to take a diesel engine out of a Ford Super Duty truck takes at least five years. The current system is not meeting the standard, he added. Sounds like Ford's #1 problem is failure to train its engineers, in how to design reasonably maintainable vehicles.

Many modern cars are not designed to be easily worked on. I think the priority is ease/cost of initial assembly, only. My 2010 Mercedes had headlight bulbs that died frequently. But there was no way for a human to reach in and replace them, without either some special tool or disassembling a bunch of stuff at the front of the car. Just one example. You can find many similar complaints elsewhere.

I had friends that bought a pair of Malibus, those require you to take off the entire front bumper to replace, and even worse they regularly burnt out bulbs and eventually melted the bulb connectors. I was so glad when they got rid of those PoS.

Re: Ford CEO says he has 5k open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many modern cars are not designed to be easily worked on. I think the priority is ease/cost of initial assembly, only. My 2010 Mercedes had headlight bulbs that died frequently. But there was no way for a human to reach in and replace them, without either some special tool or disassembling a bunch of stuff at the front of the car. Just one example. You can find many similar complaints elsewhere.

I had friends that bought a pair of Malibus, those require you to take off the entire front bumper to replace, and even worse they regularly burnt out bulbs and eventually melted the bulb connectors. I was so glad when they got rid of those PoS.

My father in law had once of those

Step one, remove car from bulb. Step two, replace bulb. Step three, assemble in reverse order.

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