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Re: Steam Machine

#21

In 2026 we should be getting Windows on a Xbox console with the Xbox skinned version of windows. This would be a direct competitor to that since most PC gamers have the majority of their game library on steam.

> the Xbox skinned version of windows

Isn't that what the ROG Xbox Ally devices have? At least that's what it looked like to me. Something like a SteamOS's gaming mode counterpart for Windows.

Re: Steam Machine

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Steam is the only reason I have a Windows desktop, I'll probably just get one of these next time I want a hardware refresh (which admittedly will probably be many years). Interesting that it uses KDE Plasma for the desktop

It doesn't boot into the desktop by default — it uses its own session with the Gamescope compositor. The desktop is easily accessible through the power menu though.

Re: Steam Machine

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Steam is the only reason I have a Windows desktop, I'll probably just get one of these next time I want a hardware refresh (which admittedly will probably be many years). Interesting that it uses KDE Plasma for the desktop

I like SteamOS a great deal, though it's not my daily driver (yet). I'm curious if people will begin to use it as a daily driver and thus expect Valve to be an OS developer on top of creating software for their gaming hardware. That's a different set of expectations and I wonder how they'll navigate it.

Linux is my daily driver, and I run steam to play games (though, not on a work linux partition for reasons).

It can run just about everything I want to play, but yes, there are plenty of things that don't work yet. Doom Dark Ages, for example.

Re: Steam Machine

#24
> "SteamOS 3 (Arch-based)"

Holy shit, it's the Year of The Linux Desktop, for real this time. It's happening. It's actually happening.

A standard Arch Linux/KDE[0] PC for every home, in a polished, vendor-supported package. Like Apple, it's a single standard hardware/OS pair, so, FOSS' fatal hardware-support hell might well be made obsolete. The vendor is a household name corporation. There's an incredibly fortuitous (for Linux) market dynamic at this point in time, of "commoditize your complement"—the dynamic that Valve has incentives to invest massively in giving away a nice thing for free, because that does bad things to its competitors. And Steam is... the killer super-app to end all killer apps.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteamOS

This is real life!

Re: Steam Machine

#25
The only thing I'd like to know, if the CPU/GPU will be replaceable? The specs say "Semi-custom AMD Zen 4" and "Semi-Custom AMD RDNA3", but I don't see "soldered" anywhere, so I guess maybe they'll be switchable? If not with off-the-shelves components, maybe Valve will offer their own upgrade kits in the future?

Re: Steam Machine

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Steam is the only reason I have a Windows desktop, I'll probably just get one of these next time I want a hardware refresh (which admittedly will probably be many years). Interesting that it uses KDE Plasma for the desktop

I like SteamOS a great deal, though it's not my daily driver (yet). I'm curious if people will begin to use it as a daily driver and thus expect Valve to be an OS developer on top of creating software for their gaming hardware. That's a different set of expectations and I wonder how they'll navigate it.

I have been using Steam Deck oled as my main computing device for 2 years. It has been amazing. It's fast and silent.

Re: Steam Machine

#27
Video games were the only reason for me to use Windows, now that Steam solved this problem no reason to look back anymore. I am also not big fan of multi-player games, so not being able to play games with anti-cheat system buried deep into their binaries isn't an issue.

Re: Steam Machine

#28

> "SteamOS 3 (Arch-based)" Holy shit, it's the Year of The Linux Desktop, for real this time. It's happening. It's actually happening . A standard Arch Linux/KDE[0] PC for every home, in a polished, vendor-supported package. Like Apple, it's a single standard hardware/OS pair, so, FOSS' fatal hardware-support hell might well be made obsolete. The vendor is a household name corporation. There's an incredibly fortuitou…

If hype is to be believed, Omarchy is also pushing a lot of devs to Linux.

Re: Steam Machine

#29
Pretty much the only reason I boot to Windows anymore is to play games with my kids and family. The direction of this thing is dangerously close to being all I'd care about from a desktop computer.

If Valve pivoted into making a well-supported laptop with good hardware that ran Linux and played games...

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