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We still need to fix the problem with powering these Datacenters....
the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
We still need to fix the problem with powering these Datacenters....
the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
There is another way forward, which is not building these data centers, forcing AI companies to use power more efficiently, and use the excess energy production capacity towards the energy transition in order to avoid the worst consequences of climate change.
It's not going to happen, at least not right now, but it's clearly what we ought to do. ChatGPT can wait.
We still need to fix the problem with powering these Datacenters....
the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
Out here in AZ, solar combined with battery would be perfect for datacenters.
We still need to fix the problem with powering these Datacenters....
the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
Additionally, while these data centers do provide some jobs, where states are giving them grants, loans, infrastructure improvement, or otherwise they are ultimately extractive developments (like parking lots) where the wealth flows out from states like Ohio and flows in to states where the CEOs and HQ sit (California, New York, etc.).
I can tell you that people in Ohio across the political spectrum are not happy. We are losing good farm land, utilizing water, and our power costs are going up for negligible benefits at best. But hey now our state representatives can say "Meta is coming to central Ohio". Meanwhile costs are going up and we still have to ship produce in from other countries and states.
If our representatives and governors office thought about this all for about 2 seconds they would require any data center development to include 2x the number of corporate jobs over a certain income threshold or else not approve the development. If the developers balk, then fine it's not like we want them anyway.
The Trump Administration (and for that matter probably any admin) isn't doing jack shit.
[1] https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/state/ohio-regulators-tu...
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the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
Even better, don’t just “allow”, but force them to create power plants equal in size to their usage. Must be renewable.
Natural gas is the main reason our emissions have gone down as it replaces coal.
Also I don't think forcing is necessary. These datacenters want to, why impose more regulations.
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the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
> it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win. There is another way forward, which is not building these data centers, forcing AI companies to use power more efficiently, and use the excess energy production capacity towards the energy transition in order to avoid the worst consequences of climate change. It's not going to happen, at least not right now, but it's clearly what we ought to do. ChatGPT can wa…
I'm all for more efficient usage, and it's in AI companies best interest to do so to minimize costs.
...but it's a growing industry, it will need more power.
We still need to fix the problem with powering these Datacenters....
the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
Will this pan out? We don't know, no one knows. But this isn't "a scam" there is a plausible future where a large percentage of white collar (or dare I say it, blue collar) work will have an assistant and that assistant requires a considerable subscription (200/mo? 1000/mo?).
Interesting to see all of the leading labs in the West make this bet.
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the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
> it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win. There is another way forward, which is not building these data centers, forcing AI companies to use power more efficiently, and use the excess energy production capacity towards the energy transition in order to avoid the worst consequences of climate change. It's not going to happen, at least not right now, but it's clearly what we ought to do. ChatGPT can wa…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
the administration is allowing datacenters to be utilities and build their own power plants, nuclear or otherwise. the excess can be sold to the grid. it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win.
> it's really the only way forward. seems like a win/win. There is another way forward, which is not building these data centers, forcing AI companies to use power more efficiently, and use the excess energy production capacity towards the energy transition in order to avoid the worst consequences of climate change. It's not going to happen, at least not right now, but it's clearly what we ought to do. ChatGPT can wa…