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Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cellular networks

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Re: Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cellular networks

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Post by mschuster91 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #5
hk__2 wrote: post #3

EU, not Europe.

The Register, being British, should probably have gotten this right, but people constantly get this wrong. Even a lot of people living in the union don't even realize the different between EU, Europe, EEA, Schengen and all the other layers, so maybe it's hard to blame "outsiders" from not getting it either. I'm guessing maybe the "European Commission" threw them off, because it's an EU entity (basically the executive…

And on top of that, when it comes to anything radio, ITU has quite the lot to say as well, and you got the ham radio community / IARU as well.

Radio, by virtue of physically not caring about borders, is a really really hot mess, with lots of very powerful and very monied interests floating around.

Re: Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cellular networks

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Post by wongarsu »

_w04p wrote: post #12
NoboruWataya wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most people realise there is a difference. If nothing else, Brexit made it very clear to those who didn't already know that you can be in this part of the world but not in the EU. But rightly or wrongly, people still use "Europe" as shorthand for "the European Union". It's no different to referring to the US as "America". I do think the media should aim to do better so agree that the Register should have used…

I find your comparison not so convincing. While there is some common misidentification between the EU and Europe, I’ve never heard anyone in the world refer to “America” in a way that was not for the United States.

"In 1492 Christopher Columbus discovered America" is a sentence I've certainly heard before, but he didn't at any point land on any area covered by the United States of America (except maybe Panama)

That ambiguity disappears if you call it "the Americas", but many places see America as one continent (including Latin America, parts of Europe and the Olympic flag)

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Post by welder »

defraudbah wrote: post #19
welder wrote: post #6

I wish govt would put a condition on the mobile carriers to fix SS7 vulnerabilities.

this would require some encryption and still can be intercepted. Any ideas how to fix that?

No, I'm talking about anyone with SS7 access basically has root on the whole network and can query for locations of any phone number anonymously... no audit trail, no access control.

https://youtu.be/xfWyU5iXJ3I?t=860

https://youtu.be/wVyu7NB7W6Y

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Post by lazide »

KAMSPioneer wrote: post #14
_w04p wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find your comparison not so convincing. While there is some common misidentification between the EU and Europe, I’ve never heard anyone in the world refer to “America” in a way that was not for the United States.

In my personal experience, people from Latin American countries will sometimes point out that they are American because they come from North or South America. Which is, of course, true; however, in English conversation, it's often nothing more than pedantry. In Spanish it makes more sense, since there is a separate demonym for a US person that doesn't co-opt the term "American." Outside of Romance language speakers b…

It’s even more amusing in some ways. A common way to refer to those from the USA in Brazil, for instance (even an official one!) is ‘Norte Americano’.

Which is all kinds of weird because - what about Mexico and Canada? And what about the ‘United states’ part?

It’s just to disambiguate from ‘Americano’ as in what others in South America sometimes use to refer to latin Americans and as a little bit of a FU to the USA, hahah.

Re: Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cellular networks

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Post by lazide »

School-Cotton wrote: post #17
_w04p wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find your comparison not so convincing. While there is some common misidentification between the EU and Europe, I’ve never heard anyone in the world refer to “America” in a way that was not for the United States.

It is normal in Spanish-speaking countries (and probably others) to consider the entirety of North and South America to be one continent called “America”. One of the most famous soccer teams in Mexico is even called “Club América”, obviously this doesn’t refer to the US.

Kind of up to the US border. Canada gets lumped up in with the USA hah.

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Post by Hikikomori »

welder wrote: post #23
defraudbah wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this would require some encryption and still can be intercepted. Any ideas how to fix that?

No, I'm talking about anyone with SS7 access basically has root on the whole network and can query for locations of any phone number anonymously... no audit trail, no access control. https://youtu.be/xfWyU5iXJ3I?t=860 https://youtu.be/wVyu7NB7W6Y

Why when we have bandaids like ss7 firewalls.

Re: Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cellular networks

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Post by KAMSPioneer »

lazide wrote: post #24
KAMSPioneer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my personal experience, people from Latin American countries will sometimes point out that they are American because they come from North or South America. Which is, of course, true; however, in English conversation, it's often nothing more than pedantry. In Spanish it makes more sense, since there is a separate demonym for a US person that doesn't co-opt the term "American." Outside of Romance language speakers b…

It’s even more amusing in some ways. A common way to refer to those from the USA in Brazil, for instance (even an official one!) is ‘Norte Americano’. Which is all kinds of weird because - what about Mexico and Canada? And what about the ‘United states’ part? It’s just to disambiguate from ‘Americano’ as in what others in South America sometimes use to refer to latin Americans and as a little bit of a FU to the USA,…

Ahh, I forgot about that...and to be transparent, I actually have no idea what French Guyana, Haiti, or Belize typically do to differentiate between people of the American continent(s) and US persons. I should have said Hispanoamerica, but oh well.
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