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Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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Very interesting, but do the numerous mentions of taking action in your 20s, 30s and 40s mean it's too late for someone in their 50s? Nitpick: he mentions LDL-C but the test results don't mention that at all. Only later do I see that is "LDL Cholesterol".

No, it is never too late to take action. Even taking action after a stent procedure reduces further risk:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronary-heart-disease/treatme...

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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The title of the article says "don't die of heart disease", but given that we all have to die at some point, if you could choose what natural cause to die of, wouldn't you pick heart disease? It is the best way to die. The worst is stroke. So once you cross a certain age, say 60, don't worry about heart disease, worry instead about stroke.

Dementia seems a pretty awful outcome too. I hope my heart gives out before my brain.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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The title of the article says "don't die of heart disease", but given that we all have to die at some point, if you could choose what natural cause to die of, wouldn't you pick heart disease? It is the best way to die. The worst is stroke. So once you cross a certain age, say 60, don't worry about heart disease, worry instead about stroke.

> worry instead about stroke. You say that as if stroke is orthogonal to heart disease. Much of what prevents one prevents the other.

Yes but there are habits that are especially important for preventing stroke, such as getting 7-9 hours of sleep, monitoring and controlling risk factors related to blood vessel health that affect the brain uniquely, such as preventing irregular heart rhythms (atrial fibrillation), anti-inflammatory diet choices focused on brain health, and so on.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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post #18
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Walking and eating sensibly is free. Even a balance oatmeal, rice & beans with infrequent meat servings would defend against heart disease better than expensive medicine, at less than $1 / day.

And not smoking or drinking saves you money!

Yes, our system is most definitely stacked against the poor, but it's important to also remember that we all have free will and that some choices fully within our power are much better than others.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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post #6

Fabulous information, but lacking information isn’t the issue. The behavioral changes are obvious and well evangelized : lose weight, regular activity (walking), and if necessary, take meds. (Yes I know your marathon runner cousin who died suddenly of a heart attack, but these are still your best odds) Telling people what to do rarely fixes anything. People need dozens of impressions for those changes to sink in. Fri…

> The behavioral changes are obvious and well evangelized : lose weight, regular activity (walking), and if necessary, take meds.

More specifically, it’s “change your diet and eat/drink less”, which is the hardest part. Diet’s impact eclipses regular activity, and it’s consequences build up and compound over decades.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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post #6

Fabulous information, but lacking information isn’t the issue. The behavioral changes are obvious and well evangelized : lose weight, regular activity (walking), and if necessary, take meds. (Yes I know your marathon runner cousin who died suddenly of a heart attack, but these are still your best odds) Telling people what to do rarely fixes anything. People need dozens of impressions for those changes to sink in. Fri…

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Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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