Excellent.
I have some Thread/Matter smart bulbs, and they work well, but Ikea joining in shows that it's finally ready for the mass market.
IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
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Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way I understand it (please correct me) is that: * The old Ikea Zigbee products will remain Zigbee. They will still require a Zigbee coordinator. * The new products will be Matter-over-Thread. They require a Thread coordinator (or whatever the Thread equivalent is called). * The existing Ikea hub has had a firmware upgrade that allows it to be simultaneously a Zigbee and Thread coordinator. * The Ikea hub adds a…
Helpful datapoints thanks. Backwards compatibility is huge.
I could be wrong! I'm trying to work out the details myself!
But I have heard that old devices will be backwards compatible.
Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#23What “hub” thing do I need to use this? I use an iPhone but really just want to use some physical remote switches. I currently use Home Assistant but want to shift to something more “mass market” as I’m bored of being family tech support.
An Apple TV or HomePod mini, if you want to stay within the Apple ecosystem…
Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#24What “hub” thing do I need to use this? I use an iPhone but really just want to use some physical remote switches. I currently use Home Assistant but want to shift to something more “mass market” as I’m bored of being family tech support.
You could get an IKEA Dirigera, but one of the upsides of Matter is that you do not need the manufacturers hub anymore. So an Apple Homepod or a Home Assistant instance with a Thread stick will do as well! (Or any other Matter hub for that matter of course)
Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#25What “hub” thing do I need to use this? I use an iPhone but really just want to use some physical remote switches. I currently use Home Assistant but want to shift to something more “mass market” as I’m bored of being family tech support.
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Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s a newer standard backed by multiple vendors (importantly, Apple, Google and Amazon, who make the devices that you ultimately want to use to control these things). Zigbee is great for communication instead of WiFi, but it’s just one part of the equation - it says nothing about the specific commands a device will respond to. You couldn’t pair a Philips remote with an IKEA lightbulb. Matter attempts to fix it by ac…
https://www.theverge.com/tech/814928/ikea-matter-thread-diri... has some quotes from IKEA saying that they're using Thread. It's strange they didn't say in this release though.
I guess because to most consumers, it doesn't actually matter. It uses matter and connects to a matter hub, the way it does it is an implementation detail unless you're making your own hub with homeassistant or something.
Even iPhones have been able to talk to thread devices directly for a while now, so it's a fairly transparent process.
Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#27What “hub” thing do I need to use this? I use an iPhone but really just want to use some physical remote switches. I currently use Home Assistant but want to shift to something more “mass market” as I’m bored of being family tech support.
I use an IKEA Dirigera, which speaks both Zigbee and Matter.
Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#28Their new smart plugs finally seem reasonably sized.
I love IKEA’s smart home products, but their smart plugs (and many of their device power plugs) are comically sized in the US. Their original US version of the TRÅDFRI plugs wouldn’t even allow for two to be plugged into the same (standard size) dual wall outlet. Their more recent TRETAKT is much better, but still larger than competitors.
Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#29IKEA's Zigbee devices have been some of the more stable smart devices I owned. I wasn't running their hub, opting to run with deCONZ in the past and moving to Zigbee2MQTT in recent years. I do wish the new range would include blinds; the previous generation (FYRTUR) is out of production, and it doesn't seem like there's a replacement yet.
Fwiw, Smartwings blinds are cost effective and have worked great for me for years now. Cone in both z-wave and zig flavors.
Re: IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products
#30Tangential but I was wondering if anyone knows of a thermostat that can work with a security system for the most simple and accurate location sensing possible- when I press away on the alarm it turns the HVAC to eco type settings to save energy. I used to get this with Google Nest and location sensing from my phone but Google as always is killing my generation of Nest thermostat. I think I’d like to get away from loc…
If you are retrofitting a complete house at the same time, look at KNX. If not, do not explore this rabbit hole.