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Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Post by ffsm8 »

fragmede wrote: post #8
bfkwlfkjf wrote: post #6

> blinded by the Western patriarchal narrative that technology in itself is not political I have no idea what this was supposed to mean.

Is (a given) technology good or bad? Western culture says it's not, that technology is neutral. Others have conflicting opinions.

And what does a "patriarchy" have to do with anything?

People that unironically use that word are generally better ignored. And after reading the linked comment thread they're trying to portrait as problematic... I can only say that framework is better off without them. They're not in a healthy mindset and will inevitably drum up controversy for asinine things, worsening the image of Framework

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Post by cthulha »

darthnebula wrote: post #20

I really hope Framework ignores these people. They are not Linux Ambassadors, they are political activists. These people only care about their ideology and anyone who doesn't blindly follow it gets defamed. I, and I would imagine many, are tired of this sort of binary thinking. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Society can't function like this.

Society can't function when people aren't allowed to make their own choices.

Why can't they choose political activism? What on earth binds them to a corporate entity and over-rides their agency?

If you want to step up and be an Ambassador, go for it! But if you think they should be compelled to do so, that's an ideological/political point of view of yours and you need to substantiate it.

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Post by samtheDamned »

This comment sums up my own feelings towards this concisely :

> This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument.

> This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument.

from: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ...

Beyond the disappointment I have in framework for giving my money to someone so clearly off the rails, it's also disappointing to see it wasted on such a poor distribution as well. Omarchy, in isolation, is just a bloated arch install with thrown together scripts, zoom, spotify, and google apps preinstalled. I appreciate that it brought new people into linux but there are countless more polished and creative distributions that would be excellent to see partner with framework instead.

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Post by khiemdn »

samtheDamned wrote: post #23

This comment sums up my own feelings towards this concisely : > This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument. > This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument. from: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ... Beyond the disappointment I have in framework for giving my money to someone so clearly off the rails, it's a…

They also sponsored other open source projects, which is good for community. A distro is not good doesnt mean it does not deserve sponsorship

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Post by bitwize »

bfkwlfkjf wrote: post #6

> blinded by the Western patriarchal narrative that technology in itself is not political I have no idea what this was supposed to mean.

Let me break it down for you:

Western: of or pertaining to the part of the world where the dominant culture is European (most of it colonized)

Patriarchal: of or pertaining to male-dominated society

Narrative: a story we tell ourselves to impart meaning to the world

Technology in itself is not political: the false (see "narrative" above) idea that technology is politically "neutral" and that the mere existence or use of a technology does not in and of itself reinforce domination or oppression

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Post by samtheDamned »

khiemdn wrote: post #25
samtheDamned wrote: post #23

This comment sums up my own feelings towards this concisely : > This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument. > This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument. from: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ... Beyond the disappointment I have in framework for giving my money to someone so clearly off the rails, it's a…

They also sponsored other open source projects, which is good for community. A distro is not good doesnt mean it does not deserve sponsorship

I agree with that sentiment, and I think if framework had been working with several small lower quality distributions to support the overall ecosystem this may not have come across as poorly as it did. Looking at their supported distros they have, officially: Fedora, Ubuntu, Bazzite, and then community: Linux Mint, Arch, Bluefin, and NixOS. Each of these are high quality projects that each fill a niche well and while no longer listed Omarchy stood out as being much less polished than the others.

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Post by omnimus »

orwin wrote: post #24

I usually stay afar of those 'too political for tech/gaming' stuff as long as no one is harassed (like Hyprland), but Omarchy is a litter box of a distrib, and doesn't deserve any money. I'd even take Ubuntu over it.

100% agree. I am not even sure why would company wanted to support that type of half baked distro that brings nothing... except dhh? Seems like they want him to endorse them so they bribe him by supporting his pet project.
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